50 hour service

[B737]

On my B2650 I just replaced it all. I'm glad I did after seeing how it looked.

dont lie Sleddog... you drank beer and watched your son do all the work

 

[NHSleddog]

dont lie Sleddog... you drank beer and watched your son do all the work

Touche' - You got me there!

 

[RalphVa]

Interesting. Sounds like fluid replacement should be done, like on a JD. Then could wait until 450 hour mark to replace next time.

 

[RCW]

On my B2650 I just replaced it all. I'm glad I did after seeing how it looked. With the fines it had in it, it will probably be the most important one in its lifetime.

You guys that didn't dump it and just saw a little fluid, are not seeing the whole picture. Dump the whole 5gal into a pan and drag a magnet around, you will be surprised.

My second change was much cleaner.

I have always gone by the Ford racing approach to breaking things in.

You bet. Well said.

I don't usually respond to the 50-hour dump/don't dump fluid threads.

Feel like beating my head against a wall.

I changed mine at 50 hours 8+ years ago. Got skewered for it on OTT. Member Bulldog and I always stuck firm to its importance, but to no avail. Our position was exactly as you said.

We were always in the minority.

Later, guys were finding new BX screen filters fouled with excess gasket sealant at 200-hour service...." you would have found that earlier if you did full service at 50......."

There were no pictures like B737's back then. They tell a lot in my opinion. He has a nice shop floor, too.....

 

[B737]

u guys are making me all bashful . its a mess in there!

totally agree with RCW, all the time (and money) we spend on our machines, it's at least peace of mind for a few dollars. We probably over service, but sleep better!

I did fluid change on my dads BX a few months ago...
me: dad when was the last time you changed the fluid on the BX?
him: i dunno... 15 years ago?
me: ok its time...

 

[RalphVa]

u guys are making me all bashful . its a mess in there!

totally agree with RCW, all the time (and money) we spend on our machines, it's at least peace of mind for a few dollars. We probably over service, but sleep better!

I did fluid change on my dads BX a few months ago...
me: dad when was the last time you changed the fluid on the BX?
him: i dunno... 15 years ago?
me: ok its time...

Yeah, after that first change, I don't see why it needs changing every 400 hours. Doesn't get very hot and is enclosed. Maybe if you're removing couplings a lot, etc. maybe a good idea, but I've never ever removed a coupling.

On the 2025R, think it says filter and HST oil replacement at 200 hours. I didn't. Only did the filter. Did fluid replacement at 50.

 

[NHSleddog]

Yeah, after that first change, I don't see why it needs changing every 400 hours. Doesn't get very hot and is enclosed. Maybe if you're removing couplings a lot, etc. maybe a good idea, but I've never ever removed a coupling.

On the 2025R, think it says filter and HST oil replacement at 200 hours. I didn't. Only did the filter. Did fluid replacement at 50.

Good point. On the HST's everything shares the same hydraulic oil. I know for me and others that have multiple hydraulic attachments, the shared oil and what is being done with it will do a lot to the age as well.

I run an auger driven by a hydraulic motor as well as a bunch of other attachments, I do all the oils at the same time on mine (every 200hrs). It's a small tractor with only 5gal. so it isn't that big a deal.

Also any time you "borrow" a hydraulic attachment or rent one, that oil (and whatever else is in it) will be blended right in, and it probably won't be SUDT

 

[lakehouse_dreaming]

I just did the 50 hour service on my L3901 and when I replaced the HST filter with the magnetic ring on it I found a rubber piece sitting in the filter when I took it off. It is pictured below. Anyone know what it may be?

 

[jyoutz]

The dealer told me to buy a new magnetic filter ring and install it on the new filter before removing the old filter. That way the filter swap is fast and you lose less fluid.

 

[lakehouse_dreaming]

The dealer told me to buy a new magnetic filter ring and install it on the new filter before removing the old filter. That way the filter swap is fast and you lose less fluid.

The new filter I put on had the magnet on it. Didn't lose but about a quart of fluid. I just was shocked by the rubber piece. It seemed like a piece of caulk.

 

[jyoutz]

The new filter I put on had the magnet on it. Didn't lose but about a quart of fluid. I just was shocked by the rubber piece. It seemed like a piece of caulk.

Really. I understood that the magnet was supposed to be re-used and didn’t come with the filter?

 

[lakehouse_dreaming]

Really. I understood that the magnet was supposed to be re-used and didn’t come with the filter?

The old part number may not have come with it but the new part number HH3A0-82623 includes the magnetic ring.

 

[RalphVa]

Hmm. Informative stuff. I remembered an old filter attached to the bottom of the stairway to the carriage house attic. Filter appears still good. Never used it much. May just catch oil in a clean container and use the filter via the Ironton extractor pump sucking on the container and filter exit back to the tractor's HST.

Can drain with the tractor on the ramp going up to its spot in the carriage house with the 2 filters on uphill side to minimize fluid loss per the one poster's dealer comment.

Only 3 hours away.

 

[number two]

I just did the 50 hour service on my L3901 and when I replaced the HST filter with the magnetic ring on it I found a rubber piece sitting in the filter when I took it off. It is pictured below. Anyone know what it may be?

Perhaps it's a bit of silicone from the assembly process?
Don't think I'd be concerned.
Good Luck!

 

[mikester]

You might feel better about doing a full drain if you discover drill shavings at your filter. It does happen.

 

[GeoHorn]

Finding particles in a factory-installed filter doesn’t mean much. Those are from the manufacturing processes. That’s the reason they want it replaced at 50 hrs.
What would be concerning is finding shavings in subsequent filters.

 

[top gnome]

I just did my 50 hour and the udt was pretty murky. I am glad I changed it.

 

[McMXi]

The dealer told me to buy a new magnetic filter ring and install it on the new filter before removing the old filter. That way the filter swap is fast and you lose less fluid.

I've changed all three filters on two MX6000s now and both hydraulic oil filters came with new magnets installed on the filter. The transmission filter doesn't have a magnet of course.

 

[McMXi]

I understand the "peace of mind" approach to changing the hydraulic oil at 50 hours but I haven't done that on either MX, just all three filters. This is how the hydraulic filters looked at the 50 hour mark. I asked the local dealer about changing the hydraulic oil at 50 hours and they don't even change the filter at that service interval.

MX6000 HST

MX6000 HSTC

 

[jyoutz]

I've changed all three filters on two MX6000s now and both hydraulic oil filters came with new magnets installed on the filter. The transmission filter doesn't have a magnet of course.

Great, I guess my dealer was wrong.