3rd function on B219 FEL

[KubotaBoy56]

So….. I eventually at some point wanna put a 3rd function valve on my B219 for a grapple how do I do that without buying a whole kit

 

[TheOldHokie]

So….. I eventually at some point wanna put a 3rd function valve on my B219 for a grapple how do I do that without buying a whole kit

Thats an old loader. How are you going to attach the grapple? Thats probably harder than adding the third function.

Dan

 

[KubotaBoy56]

Thats an old loader. How are you going to attach the grapple? Thats probably harder than adding the third function.

Dan

Something like this

 

[TheOldHokie]

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Something like this

OK - all you need for a third function is a single spool valve plumbed into the loader supply side circuit. A manual lever operated valve would run you about $100. An electric solenoid operated valve is roughly double that. Since your loader valve is two lever not joystick style I can't see much reason for that.

BTW - when you finish with my bush hog please put it back where you got it

Dan

 

[Vigo]

Not sure what i just missed.. is that your tractor OldHokie?

Anyway as a fellow b219 owner im all for it, but keep in mind attaching to the stock light duty bucket in that way is.. light duty. Would work for grappling large piles of light brush, or keeping a large log from falling out (if you can lift it..) but wouldn’t put much of a squeeze on anything without bending or ripping the bucket there.

 

[TheOldHokie]

Not sure what i just missed.. is that your tractor OldHokie?

Anyway as a fellow b219 owner im all for it, but keep in mind attaching to the stock light duty bucket in that way is.. light duty. Would work for grappling large piles of light brush, or keeping a large log from falling out (if you can lift it..) but wouldn’t put much of a squeeze on anything without bending or ripping the bucket there.

Not my tractor but that old bushog is a twin for mine.

Dan

 

[KubotaBoy56]

Not my tractor but that old bushog is a twin for mine.

Dan

Also I saw this guy put my Backhoe (B670) on his 16 HP Yanmar tractor and he had a 24 inch bucket on the backhoe my grandpa before he passed said you couldn’t do anything bigger then what’s on because it won’t have enough HP to maneuver with the bucket is this true? If not could I put a bigger bucket on it?

 

[KubotaBoy56]

Also I saw this guy put my Backhoe (B670) on his 16 HP Yanmar tractor and he had a 24 inch bucket on the backhoe my grandpa before he passed said you couldn’t do anything bigger then what’s on because it won’t have enough HP to maneuver with the bucket is this true? If not could I put a bigger bucket on it?

 

[Vigo]

So i've operated a b670 a little bit (hour or two) and i agree that a 24" bucket is 'silly' on that machine because it would make the machine less capable in most conditions, to make it potentially faster in a tiny minority of cases. I don't think it would be silly to HAVE a 24" bucket for it.. but if i had a b670 (the one ive used is my buddies ive been fixing up) a bucket that size would be about the LAST bucket i built/bought for it. A trenching bucket, a ripper, a thumb, potentially even more types of attachments for it would all be more useful more often, than a 24" bucket that was really only effective at moving looser materials inside a b670's tiny ~5ft radius. Considering its short reach i think it should be more optimized for 'ground breaking' via a ripper or small bucket, and anything loose enough that a 24" bucket would be good on, you might as well turn around and use the FEL on it.

 

[Lil Foot]

i agree that a 24" bucket is 'silly' on that machine because it would make the machine less capable in most conditions,

a 24" bucket that was really only effective at moving looser materials inside a b670's tiny ~5ft radius.

I have a 10" and a couple different 14" buckets for my B670. The 14" , in my opinion, is about all the B670 can really handle well.

B670 mounted on a Yanmar:

 

[KubotaBoy56]

I have a 10" and a couple different 14" buckets for my B670. The 14" , in my opinion, is about all the B670 can really handle well.

B670 mounted on a Yanmar:

How big is that bucket on that B670?

 

[Lil Foot]

Not sure, I just found that youtube video a while ago, don't know the tractor or any details.
It is wider than my 14" bucket, so I would guess 16" or maybe even 18".

 

[KubotaBoy56]

Not sure, I just found that youtube video a while ago, don't know the tractor or any details.
It is wider than my 14" bucket, so I would guess 16" or maybe even 18".

Is that too big? It looks massive

 

[Vigo]

Well he already said this:

The 14" , in my opinion, is about all the B670 can really handle well.

In my opinion it would be nice to have 2 buckets, an ~6-8" narrow 'trenching' bucket to break up hard stuff, and a ~12-16" 'looser materials' bucket. Or, a ripper tooth and a ~10" bucket (i think the common stock one is 10"?). If you had to have only one i'd have a 10", if you got to have 2, those are the options i would take personally. Of course they all take some combination of work and money but so does owning an ancient backhoe in general.

 

[Lil Foot]

Is that too big? It looks massive

I think so, and yes, it does look massive.

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I looked for another bucket (toothless) to shape/reshape the banks & slopes. I searched everywhere and finally found this 14" bucket and I cut the teeth off of it.

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But I really wanted the wider 18" bucket in the pic below. It would not have been any use for digging, but it would have been handy for grading/shaping. Unfortunately, it was missing.