2008 kabota rtv1140 overheating

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I have a 2008 kabota diesel rtv1140 that has been running hot so i replaced water pump, thermostat, cooling fan switch, pressure cap, and had the radiator checked to see if it was clogged.
I can drive it all day long at part throttle without overheating but durring hard acceleration the temp climbs to the red really quick.
any help? Maybe a hose collapsing? Head gasket?
 

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Well I may not be help we had a work van recently replaced radiator it was leaking and we had changed water pump after due to overheating that never occurred before the swap, then had 2 thermostats and cap replaced. And spent hrs on hrs it would be fine until you took on interstate for 20 min then would take 2 hrs to get. Back in cold weather due to overheating cool down over heat cool down etc it was a pia. Ended up being bad thermostat and cap both new outa box. Cheap parts these days...
 

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You have thrown a good many parts at the ol girl - do you know IF any of them were bad?

My first thought would be a smallll leak in the head gasket - but even at idle it would slowly raise the temps.

DO this - get an infrared thermometer - get the engine up to temps (normal) and then shoot a temp at the metal neck at the upper radiator hose ......... that should be something close to 200 F .... 210 is ok too for a hard working engine......... now shoot the bottom metal hose neck - THAT should be way lower, line 120 or even less!

Despite having the radiator looked at - it may not be able to cool an engine when worked hard, the temps will tell the story.
 
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I have a 2008 kabota diesel rtv1140 that has been running hot so i replaced water pump, thermostat, cooling fan switch, pressure cap, and had the radiator checked to see if it was clogged.
I can drive it all day long at part throttle without overheating but durring hard acceleration the temp climbs to the red really quick.
any help? Maybe a hose collapsing? Head gasket?
Check the engine temp with a radiant heat gun and ensure it is in fact getting hot.
 
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You have thrown a good many parts at the ol girl - do you know IF any of them were bad?

My first thought would be a smallll leak in the head gasket - but even at idle it would slowly raise the temps.

DO this - get an infrared thermometer - get the engine up to temps (normal) and then shoot a temp at the metal neck at the upper radiator hose ......... that should be something close to 200 F .... 210 is ok too for a hard working engine......... now shoot the bottom metal hose neck - THAT should be way lower, line 120 or even less!

Despite having the radiator looked at - it may not be able to cool an engine when worked hard, the temps will tell the story.
It does have an intermitant misfire when it warms up.
 

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It does have an intermitant misfire when it warms up.
Not being a smart ass here ..... diesels dont misfire........ they might have an injector that is not quite doing a good job thus making a "miss" - but that will typically go away as the engine gets to working temps or stay a miss.

You may have a fuel delivery problem - have you changed any of the fuel filters in the past?

Get those numbers on the radiator together and tell what they are - hopefully we can tell you what to look for next
 

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Not being a smart ass here ..... diesels dont misfire........ they might have an injector that is not quite doing a good job thus making a "miss" - but that will typically go away as the engine gets to working temps or stay a miss.

You may have a fuel delivery problem - have you changed any of the fuel filters in the past?

Get those numbers on the radiator together and tell what they are - hopefully we can tell you what to look for next
The miss is very intermitant.
Temp at the top of the thermostat housing 180f.
The temp at bottom of the neck is 208f.
Top radiator hose 160f
Bottom hose 68f

Back of cylinder head 270f
Front 199f
All this after 15minute high idle.
Temp guage is pegged.
 

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180 at top of housing 180 CHECK!!!!!!!!
BOTTOM of neck???? 208? Not sure where you are shooting .....
Top radiator 160 .... not the hose - the metal neck where the hose goes around ......
Bottom 68

YOU have a gauge problem then ......

your radiator is doing what it is supposed to do - drop almost 100 degrees of cooling,

so I am saying you have a gauge or sending unit problem.

UNLESS there is a block in the coolant passage inside the head/block............
 

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180 at top of housing 180 CHECK!!!!!!!!
BOTTOM of neck???? 208? Not sure where you are shooting .....
Top radiator 160 .... not the hose - the metal neck where the hose goes around ......
Bottom 68

YOU have a gauge problem then ......

your radiator is doing what it is supposed to do - drop almost 100 degrees of cooling,

so I am saying you have a gauge or sending unit problem.

UNLESS there is a block in the coolant passage inside the head/block............
The guage pegs when the sending unit is disconnected
The temps were taken in different areas of the engine.
Top t-stat housing 180
Bottom t-stat housing 208
Top center of the rad hose 160
Center of lower hose 68
Front of the cylinder head 199
Back of cylinder head 270
I hope thats alittle more help
 

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Any blow by ? If you’ve thrown that many parts at it and it’s still overheating I’d check your coolant lines . Flush and blow everything out . If that doesn’t help then maybe your water jackets are plugged ?? I’m puzzled at this one
 

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Any blow by ? If you’ve thrown that many parts at it and it’s still overheating I’d check your coolant lines . Flush and blow everything out . If that doesn’t help then maybe your water jackets are plugged ?? I’m puzzled at this one
OF - per whitetiger and Hokie’s suggestion, looks like he did check temperatures with an infrared thermometer.

Except for an odd issue, the temperatures looked like it wasn’t overheated.

My BX2360 has spiked HOT a few times, once after only running 5 minutes....I knew it wasn’t overheating.

Like Equipment Guy said, as soon as connection is pulled off the dash indicator reads HOT.

Every once in a while I pull the sending unit connection wire off and clean it up and put some dielectric grease on it.
 

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OF - per whitetiger and Hokie’s suggestion, looks like he did check temperatures with an infrared thermometer.

Except for an odd issue, the temperatures looked like it wasn’t overheated.

My BX2360 has spiked HOT a few times, once after only running 5 minutes....I knew it wasn’t overheating.

Like Equipment Guy said, as soon as connection is pulled off the dash indicator reads HOT.

Every once in a while I pull the sending unit connection wire off and clean it up and put some dielectric grease on it.
270 At the back of the head would cause me concern. Is the exhaust obstructed at all? Try shooting the different cylinders at the entrance to the manifold with your ir gun.
 

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OF - per whitetiger and Hokie’s suggestion, looks like he did check temperatures with an infrared thermometer.

Except for an odd issue, the temperatures looked like it wasn’t overheated.

My BX2360 has spiked HOT a few times, once after only running 5 minutes....I knew it wasn’t overheating.

Like Equipment Guy said, as soon as connection is pulled off the dash indicator reads HOT.

Every once in a while I pull the sending unit connection wire off and clean it up and put some dielectric grease on it.
So you think the gauge is junk then.
 

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270 At the back of the head would cause me concern. Is the exhaust obstructed at all? Try shooting the different cylinders at the entrance to the manifold with your ir gun.
True - I incorrectly read “exhaust manifold” for some reason....be good to shoot a couple more spots to double check what part is being recorded.

My apologies to the OP for the omission.
I have the gift of literacy, I should use it.... :oops:
 
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So you think the gauge is junk then.
My first thought is a simple clean up/dielectric grease of the connection at the sending unit. My BX does the same thing occasionally.

Second is the sending unit itself.

That 270 degree reading KubotaFreak pointed out should be looked at further just to make sure it’s correct and is in fact the head. That could be something totally different.....other temperatures looked reasonable.

I’m sure I’ve checked my own temperatures at the head before, but don’t recall what they read.

I would expect them to be pretty hot, as that’s where combustion is happening.
 
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I don't use infared, it only reads the surface temp, NOT what the coolant temp actually is. It takes a while for the block/housings/etc to warm up to the actual coolant temps and it's dependent on outside air temp as well as how long it's been running, airflow across the part you're attempting to measure, etc. Just not that accurate. It can get you within about 30 degrees of actual coolant temp and that's about it, based on my testing.

Secondly where did you get this thing from? And whereabouts are you located? I know of one (1140) that had similar issues, looked great. Almost looked new! Had cracked head, trashed center cylinder, just enough compression to run, well kinda, on the center cylinder. #1 and #3 were 500+, #2 was like 280. Just making sure you didn't buy it from him.

So that's where I'd look. First thing, fill the cold system cold engine with coolant and remove the pressure cap from the radiator. Start engine. Do you see some bubbles? If so, you have either a leaking head gasket or cracked head, both of which are somewhat common. No bubbles? Good. You've done everything else except measure actual coolant temp, which you can do with a thermometer stuck down into the filler neck, but the problem is....it's going to be HOT, enough to endanger you. Second option stuff a real temp gauge into the head's sending unit and see how hot it really gets before you condemn either the gauge, sender, or wiring. If it is in fact getting hot and there is no other explanation, pull the head and look at the stem holes-very very common for them to get plugged up, and when they do, there's nothing you can do but clean them out and put a new gasket on it. If you saw rusty looking coolant in the past, chances are good that the steam holes are plugged. They are in between the cylinders, small coolant passages about 3/16" dia in the deck of the block, almost in between each cylinder. If they plug, it will run hot-guaranteed-and many times we start replacing parts until we're blue in the face, and never give second thought to this. While the head is off, I'd highly suggest cleaning the surfaces with carb cleaner and a rag, inspecting for cracks. The carb cleaner tends to dissolve the carbon buildup, and if there is a crack usually the dissolved carbon will fill in the crack as you wipe, and it will show up like a sore thumb plain as day once the surfaces are all clean. If it did have rusty looking coolant in the past, that's a dead giveaway that the coolant was never serviced properly. They say to change/flush it every two years but seems like precisely 0.1% of owners actually do it.

I hate to say it, but I'm going to anyway--Kubota diesels are real sensitve, when overheated, they very frequently crack the head.