1630 Loader Control Valve

[Thatoneguy]

The valve itself didnt come with instructions. The most instructions i got came with the power beyond plug.

 

[Thatoneguy]

I just pulled the boot back i see what your saying. The spool is symentrical i should be able to pull the hex head screws and rotate this assembly 90 degrees. It would then do what i need it to do

 

[TheOldHokie]

The valve itself didnt come with instructions. The most instructions i got came with the power beyond plug.

You can download the instructions from Brand. Much easier than guessing.

LV - Loader Directional Control Valve | Brand Hydraulics Product Information

Brand Hydraulics of Omaha Nebraska designs, manufactures, and assembles a diverse product line of hydraulics and electro-hydraulic components including hydraulic valves, electronic controllers and hand pumps which it sells to customers world-wide.

www.brand-hyd.com

You should not have needed to purchase a power beyond plug - it comes standard with the valve.

Dan

 

[majorwager]

You need a valve with the optional power beyond feature to integrate with the hydraulic block on your B100.
The PB feature is an additional sleeve or plug which is screwed into the valve body.
You want a valve with a low flow rating. Less than 10 gpm and preferably 8. Too large a flow rating produces a valve with no fine control.
This is an example of the valve you should be looking for.
Surplus Center

Don't forget to get the optional PB part.

Suggest you talk to these people and not just pick the valve I linked.

Dave

edit: mark all hoses before removing them. A hose put on the new valve in the wrong port will be bad news.

It would help if you could identify the type and size of fittings used on your current valve so your new valve comes with any necessary adapters

Dave, that is excellent advice, all these years, you still have the knowledge. There is a member on here, will remain nameless. He happened to be perusing the same valve @ surplus center as me. When I examined the specs, the physical size w/ monstrous @ the rating was 25 GPM. He went ahead & purchased it for a tractor w/ a loader flow of about 10gpm. (+/-)
I asked how it functioned & he claimed it performed flawlessly. Wasn't worth a battle, so I just said fine but I suspect the power down was closer to crashing down.

 

[Thatoneguy]

When i purchased the valve from surplus center, the one i got didnt come with any type of included powerbeyond. Im not sure why.

So ive learned a lot about this topic. Thank you all again for that. The valve i originally purchased and posted the link to is designed to be mounted vertically with the work ports to the side which i could make work but would rather not. If i rotate the handle 180 degrees, it fixes the float issue putting it onto the up position, but the regen would be on the roll side and would create a problem when scooping up dirt. I believe this is what i read on a different post with someone else having a similar issue with regen and possibly mistaking it for a safety feature.

Brand makes a ton of different valves As it relates to the spools. The valve body and ports are the same(LV), but the spool configuration differs depending on its desired orientation. In my case, i want the float and regen features but i also want the work ports to face upward and mount the same as the factory spool. That specific application is not offered at surplus center and i needed to order it through a 3rd party vendor. The valve is apparently made to order according to brand, and is a 2 month eta.

The link above the hokie added allowed me to look at the LV valves specifically and each has the lever functions based on its orientation as its intended to be used. I read an article on the regen feature and it basically allows the bucket to dump faster. With the valve i currently have, having the regen on the roll side (left) according to brand would be using the spool as its not intended. Each spool is machined specific to its function and shouldnt be interchanged. If i knew then what i know now, i would have paid closer attention to what i was ordering from surplus center. Since the tractor will be down for 2 months waiting on parts, ill pull the leaking bucket cylinders and out in new orings.

This was an expensive mistake on my part. I hope this info can help someone else looking to do this upgrade. Thank you all for pointing me in the right direction

 

[TheOldHokie]

When i purchased the valve from surplus center, the one i got didnt come with any type of included powerbeyond. Im not sure why.

So ive learned a lot about this topic. Thank you all again for that. The valve i originally purchased and posted the link to is designed to be mounted vertically with the work ports to the side which i could make work but would rather not. If i rotate the handle 180 degrees, it fixes the float issue putting it onto the up position, but the regen would be on the roll side and would create a problem when scooping up dirt. I believe this is what i read on a different post with someone else having a similar issue with regen and possibly mistaking it for a safety feature.

Brand makes a ton of different valves As it relates to the spools. The valve body and ports are the same(LV), but the spool configuration differs depending on its desired orientation. In my case, i want the float and regen features but i also want the work ports to face upward and mount the same as the factory spool. That specific application is not offered at surplus center and i needed to order it through a 3rd party vendor. The valve is apparently made to order according to brand, and is a 2 month eta.

The link above the hokie added allowed me to look at the LV valves specifically and each has the lever functions based on its orientation as its intended to be used. I read an article on the regen feature and it basically allows the bucket to dump faster. With the valve i currently have, having the regen on the roll side (left) according to brand would be using the spool as its not intended. Each spool is machined specific to its function and shouldnt be interchanged. If i knew then what i know now, i would have paid closer attention to what i was ordering from surplus center. Since the tractor will be down for 2 months waiting on parts, ill pull the leaking bucket cylinders and out in new orings.

This was an expensive mistake on my part. I hope this info can help someone else looking to do this upgrade. Thank you all for pointing me in the right direction

The only expensive mistake you made was ordering the valve from Surplus Center. Summit sells it for a lot less. The Brand LV loader valve can be modified to fit many mounting orientations. It will work fine in your application and fast dump will be to the right where you want it if you follow the joystick setup instructions.

Dan

 

[Thatoneguy]

I agree. Luckily surplus supply will take my old valve back... the other valves are on back order also. Im assuming thats why the one i ordered is going to take 2 months. When i spoke to brand yesterday they told me the valve i had wouldnt work. I guess the spools are reversed and since they are machined differently, they cant be switched. The guy i spoke with pointed me to the correct valve i need for my application. I zigged when i should have zagged.

I will go back and look through the instructions and see if i missed something. Thank you again. I owe you all beers.

 

[TheOldHokie]

I agree. Luckily surplus supply will take my old valve back... the other valves are on back order also. Im assuming thats why the one i ordered is going to take 2 months. When i spoke to brand yesterday they told me the valve i had wouldnt work. I guess the spools are reversed and since they are machined differently, they cant be switched. The guy i spoke with pointed me to the correct valve i need for my application. I zigged when i should have zagged.

I will go back and look through the instructions and see if i missed something. Thank you again. I owe

I agree. Luckily surplus supply will take my old valve back... the other valves are on back order also. Im assuming thats why the one i ordered is going to take 2 months. When i spoke to brand yesterday they told me the valve i had wouldnt work. I guess the spools are reversed and since they are machined differently, they cant be switched. The guy i spoke with pointed me to the correct valve i need for my application. I zigged when i should have zagged.

I will go back and look through the instructions and see if i missed something. Thank you again. I owe you all beers.

You are correct and I was mistaken. After looking at the instructions more carefully I now see the LV valve has two separate joystick scheme options depending on model number. One allows conversion between top and bottom mounting (A/A1) and the other between left and right side mounting (A2/A3). You cannot convert between A/A1 and A2/A3. I did not pick up on that initially.

Surplus Center is selling the A/A1 left/right side mounting version. Summit sells the A2/A3 top/bottom mounting version which is what you want. The Summit valve also includes the power beyond sleeve.

The valve I purchased for my B1630 came from Surplus Center several years ago and I did not realize the difference until now. Thank you for pointing out my mistake. Its not an issue for me and I will simply mount it sideways (A2 or A3) rather than upright. I have been toying with the idea of relocating it back next to the seat and that might actually make that easier to do.

Dan

 

[Thatoneguy]

Well, finally got it back together and figured id give an update. I had to order the loader valve through brand through a 3rd party vendor. It wasnt cheap but it works far better than the factory one that was installed. As i mentioned previously they make several valves in various configurations and depending on the orientation of how it is being mount depends on the model. The factory replacement valve i purchased which is designed to mount the same orientation as factor is the LV22TKRFSA3B. This valve has a regen detent and float. It did take a few months to get it but it was worth the wait. Thank you all again for you input and help.

I added a few pics of how i widened the factory mounting plate. I cut off the bend, used 2" strips of 1/4" place and welded them in place and drilled new holes. The new valve is a little bigger than factory.

 

[Lil Foot]

Thanks for the update.

 

[TheOldHokie]

Well, finally got it back together and figured id give an update. I had to order the loader valve through brand through a 3rd party vendor. It wasnt cheap but it works far better than the factory one that was installed. As i mentioned previously they make several valves in various configurations and depending on the orientation of how it is being mount depends on the model. The factory replacement valve i purchased which is designed to mount the same orientation as factor is the LV22TKRFSA3B. This valve has a regen detent and float. It did take a few months to get it but it was worth the wait. Thank you all again for you input and help.

I added a few pics of how i widened the factory mounting plate. I cut off the bend, used 2" strips of 1/4" place and welded them in place and drilled new holes. The new valve is a little bigger than factory.

Very neat and tidy

Dan