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Maybe you should try to open your mind just a bit and READ. 1. Each brand has nightmare stories. There are several Kubota nightmare stories on this forum. Does Kubota have a MUCH better reputation that other tractor brands? Hell yes. How many times have I agreed with this - yet you keep...

Seems that the devoted Kubota diehards are so insecure that they are compelled to hang out here - in a thread that I created to share information on Kioti. Talk about panties in a twist!!! OMG!

I'm so proud you were able to connect those two points! Bravo!

Resale value of the Kubotas will be strong due to their well-deserved reputation. I've said this before. But note that resale value of the Kioti's is NOT necessarily bad- but not at the level of Kubota. LOL. My neighbor purchased an L3901 within a couple of weeks me purchasing my L2501 a...

Do you really think your BIL experience is statistically significant?? Have your read any other parts of this forum? Perhaps you have seen a new Kubota owner with some teething problems? Does it mean that Kubota's are junk? That's essentially what you are saying. Let me summarize my...

Grow up. Did you read the title of the thread? If you are not interested in the topic, no one is forcing you to read the thread. I don't care who agrees and disagrees - the spirit was to share information across different brands. Apologies for the small snipe when someone states something...

Thank you for your valuable insight and market research results.

Indeed, I would see these models as competitors - the Kioti with a 3-cyl 1.6 and the Kubota with a 4-cyl 2.4. I don't know the heritage of either engine to be able to make an informed decision about which may be more stressed - but I would agree with you that everything else being equal, I...

The models that we have been discussing/comparing have been the L2501 and maybe the L3901 - both of which have 3-cylinder engines with similar displacement and HP to the Kioti competitors. So, this "not working as hard" claim is not applicable. Yes, no doubt Kubota can and does build higher...

I think your orange-colored glasses are preventing you from being objective. I'm not comparing large SUVs against small SUVs - I'm comparing tractors that are identically in the same class/size. Head to head competitors. Also, you incorrectly insinuate that I am claiming the Kubota is poorly...

I DID find and watched the video I believe you are referencing. In the test where he is getting the 1800lb number, he is combining both the lift AND curl cylinders - so you basically have twice the number of cylinders functioning. The curl cylinders are smaller but have a significant...

Hydraulic lift capacity has NOTHING to do with weight and ballast - nothing at all. It is what it is and it is a function solely of the geometry of the lifting mechanism and the capability of the hydraulics - piston diameter, pressure, etc. Lifting safely is another story - and it is where...

If that was your first change, I might not be that concerned but if this is your second, hmmmmm. I would definitely make some notes, save the pictures, and share them with the dealer and ask them if you should bring it in. At least you will have everything on record in case something goes...

All of your points are very good - most especially the type of dealer supporting each product and their proximity to you! The other thing is that you are comparing larger tractors than I was. Where my opinion that one was better than another - in the segment that I was more closely...

I respect that opinion - but having recently shopped very objectively and narrowing down my decision to Kubota, Kioti, and Mahindra, I too have an opinion. First, from a pure here and now, product-only perspective, I don't think Mahindra is there yet. Close, but Kioti and Kubota have a better...

Did you consider a new Kioti - specifically the DK5510SECH or the DK6010SECH? I think these are the direct competition for the MX, albeit potentially at a lower cost point. (I've not done the in-person comparison so I'm not here to say which is better.) The Kioti DOES come with several...

I had a L2501 as my first tractor which has the same FEL lift capability as the 3901 you are considering. This is 1131lbs which, IMO, is low. The two tasks where this was most noticeable were; 1) using pallet forks and lifting pallets, and; 2) when scooping in to a pile of freshly delivered...

Kubota DO have very good resale value - one of the factors that made it so easy for me to make the upgrade. We agree on this. As for the Kioti resale - perhaps historically no one has been as good as the Kubota - but maybe not so bad either...

I agree with you that the DK4210 is a larger machine and costlier than a L2501 - and it is unfair to compare them. But, you can compare the L3301 with the CK3510SE and again - a large disparity of lift capacity. Further, I agree that as an operator you DO need to be a little smarter about what...

Perfect. You sound very objective and tried out different manufacture's tractors (and trucks!) and chose the one you liked and best fit your needs. Kudos. I get that this is a Kubota-forum (even though the Kioti's are orange too!), but I think it would behoove people to widen their shopping...