What implement to break new ground with L3200?

[KBorange]

I am looking to do maybe three acres of winter wheat and clover for the wildlife on our property. My question is, what do I need to start with in breaking up the soil? A bottom plow, and disc harrow, a roto tiller, or something else? The ground has been plowed before, but as it sits now it is covered in pretty thick native grasses. It is Missouri River bottom soil, not much clay at all. But the one field has a bunch of chunks of flint from the Indians. Some pretty darn big. I plan on trying to pick up most of the big pieces before I start breaking ground. Also, what other implements do you recommend for small food plots?. Thanks in advance.

 

[lsmurphy]

I'll be scratching new ground this fall to turn over for the winter myself this year.

I'll drop the rippers down on my box and that will give me about 6-8 inches of scratch. Then I'll go to the bottom plow and then straight to the tiller.

I have found the disc to be utterly useless around here.......too much clay.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Disk with serrated blades (if no clay), Cultivator, Spring tooth harrow, Chisel plow, all these will work.

 

[KBorange]

I'm thinking ill start of with a Land Pride DH1560, a drag harrow, and a seed bed roller. I just hope that disc can break up the soil good enough. I guess after the initial run it will get easier with time?

 

[76_Bronco]

I'm thinking ill start of with a Land Pride DH1560, a drag harrow, and a seed bed roller. I just hope that disc can break up the soil good enough. I guess after the initial run it will get easier with time?

That Land Pride DH1560 should do the job if your soil isn't clay. It would be best if you could burn the grass down with Gly first. Just disk it 2-3 times with it adjusted to the steepest angle. Once you have the ground tore up pretty good, adjust the disk angle to 90° and it will give you a decent seed bed. just don't forget to disk in some fertilizer prior to planting. I use that method for planting fall plots of wheat, oats, winter peas, and clover. Once I have the seed spread, I go back over it with the disk lowered just enough to barely cover them, then finish up with a cultipacker.

 

[Bluegill]

We us e a disk harrow with serrated blades here.

 

[skeets]

winter wheat and clover for the wildlife on our property Aww feed for the critters,,, Around here that's whats called baiting Teheheeeeee,,

 

[Benhameen]

I planted sunflowers in the spring and all I did was turn it over with a one bottom plow and then hit it with my roto tiller and it came out great.

I should however mention that I have very poor soil here in southern Illinois. It's mostly clay and the tiller was having a tough time with it, until i plowed it, I'm sure it would have tilled it up but I didn't want to abuse it.

 

[KBorange]

Sending out soil samples this week. Gonna go ahead and start prepping the ground this fall for next spring. Wanna have the lime down for about 6 months before planting. Ill probably disc in the lime this fall. Springtime ill spray with gly, disc again as much as needed. Disc in appropriate amount of fertilizer for each plot. Seed and roll and pray for rain. Luckily I live about 5 minutes from where I'll be plotting at, so I can get over there pretty quickly and seed if I know a rain is coming. I've read that if you plant right before a good rain then cultipacking/rolling might not even be necessary.

 

[09Ram]

I have had an 8 foot disk for many years but on our hard pack it needs a little help so I bought a King Kutter Middle Buster at the local tractor place used for $100 and it is the cats meow for busting it up and I just toss it on top of my disk for weight after I get done with it. I have even dug stumps out with it...

 

[Driver79]

I wouldnt break up the ground. I would spray the area with glyphosate and in a week or so broadcast the seed into the dead thatch. There is no reason to turn the soil over a lose valuable moisture- especially for the type of seed you want to plant. It would be a waste of time and money working your soil over. If the vegatation is high I would mow it before spraying. I no-till most of my plots with excellent results.

 

[Otisdog]

Driver.
Do you drag or pack after broadcasting into the thatch?

 

[Otisdog]

Sending out soil samples this week. Gonna go ahead and start prepping the ground this fall for next spring. Wanna have the lime down for about 6 months before planting. Ill probably disc in the lime this fall. Springtime ill spray with gly, disc again as much as needed. Disc in appropriate amount of fertilizer for each plot. Seed and roll and pray for rain. Luckily I live about 5 minutes from where I'll be plotting at, so I can get over there pretty quickly and seed if I know a rain is coming. I've read that if you plant right before a good rain then cultipacking/rolling might not even be necessary.

I'm trying some new methods this year. Do you see any problem disking in fertilizer a week or two before seeding. I'm on new ground and
I used gly to start it is completely browned out

 

[Driver79]

Driver.
Do you drag or pack after broadcasting into the thatch?

Depends on what type of seed i am planting. Cultipacking is usually done regardless.