2 cylinder Kubota

theski

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Hello all
This is my first post ....my two cylinder brand new motor is hard starting....when it's 70° it starts ....glow plugs have power....fuel looks good ....at times of no start I give it a puff of starting fluid and it starts right up ...I use it to run a generator like an APU on my tractor trailer
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I give it a puff of starting fluid and it starts right up
I will 99% guarantee you will need to have the engine rebuilt.
These engine you can NEVER use starting fluid.
It bends the rods, it brakes pistons, it damages a whole host of things.

You will need to start by doing a compression test on it to find out the initial state of it.
 
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I will 99% guarantee you will need to have the engine rebuilt.
These engine you can NEVER use starting fluid.
It bends the rods, it brakes pistons, it damages a whole host of things.

You will need to start by doing a compression test on it to find out the initial state of it.
Darn ....it's brand new....now I just give it a little puff ....but once it starts it is good ...it has been like this since new first time in temps below like 60 ° ....but I'll do the tests you mentioned for sure ...thank you for replying
 

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Darn ....it's brand new....now I just give it a little puff ....but once it starts it is good ...it has been like this since new first time in temps below like 60 ° ....but I'll do the tests you mentioned for sure ...thank you for replying
It is now 6 months old I used it all winter even in 10 below zero temps ....the starter is a little bit slow ( original)
 

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If the compression is good then it's a glow plug issue.
That's an easy thing to fix and remedy.
Glow plugs on these engines can take 10 to 30 seconds to heat up and they also heat while they are cranking.
And yes it's also possible that it's got a starter issue and it just isn't spinning fast enough.
 
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If the compression is good then it's a glow plug issue.
That's an easy thing to fix and remedy.
Glow plugs on these engines can take 10 to 30 seconds to heat up and they also heat while they are cranking.
And yes it's also possible that it's got a starter issue and it just isn't spinning fast enough.
Now when I put a test light on the glow plugs it lights up nice ...I hope the gloves are new on a new motor but what ya think ?
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Now when I put a test light on the glow plugs it lights up nice ...I hope the gloves are new on a new motor but what ya think ?
Thanks in advance
That shows you have power to the plugs, but not that the plugs are heating. If you have an ohmmeter, disconnect the wires and measure resistance from the top of each glowplug to ground. Should be around 1 ohm.
 
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Had the head been off before? (maybe someone used a non-OEM head gasket.)
I bought this engine new last year .......I ran it 5 days straight in 95° temps in texas ( I use this motor to turn a generator apu system) that powers my air-conditioning and 120v plugs in my tractor trailer....but it starting pissing coolant out the overflow tank .....so I took it apart today ....I guess I'll run to a machine shop and see if the head is warped ...
 

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I'm not sure about the bubbles in the overflow tank ... But I'm gonna guess that it's in a Carrier APU, if so they usually start hard if the primary fuel filter is getting clogged, and or there is a tiny air leak so fuel drains back from the primary fuel filter to tank, usually at the filter connection!

That filter looks like a lawnmower filter near the top front of the engine ...
 

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gasket was possibly leaking, hard to see but looks like it could have been at several spots. That would explain the bubbles in coolant.

never use starting fluid. Ever. If it won't start on it's own something is wrong. Fix that before destroying it.

now with the head off you want to put each piston at TDC and measure how far out of the cylinder it is....and that measurement is in thousandths of an inch so you can't just eyeball it. Measure and record BOTH cylinders. The manual specifies how far out they should be and any deviation means you have bent a rod. most likely. My dad ether'd his G1800 one time, just a little tiny bit to get it to start when it was like 10 degrees outside. Got it cranked up, ran fine-for years. Then one day it started to smoke a little bit. Well it was close to winter service time so I went & got it and did a compression test. #1 and #3 were 490 psi. #2 was 270 I think. Pulled head, measured each (rods were fine) so I pulled the engine out and found #2 cylinder has broken ring lands-and that is due to starting fluid. It was damaged a long time ago but ran for a couple seasons before it's ugly head reared itself. new piston and it's good to go. Point is, the damage is probably done (if there is any) and you may never know it until that one day when it just won't start or starts smoking with excessive blowby.

the one picture, it looks like one cylinder is fairly clean and the other is black, oily mess. The black one would tell me that it's not running properly on that cylinder. Maybe it's my blind eyes, maybe the other cylinder had already been cleaned. Or both.

on glow plugs. You need to check the voltage and you need to also check the ohms of each plug. A test light can light up with 5 or 6 volts but that's not near enough to get them hot, assuming they both work. Even if it is a new engine. New doesn't always mean it's good.
 
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