Which Kubota to buy?

Atlanta Panther

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Kubota L3200HST with Loaded R4 Tires, LA524 Loader and Quick Connect 66" bucket
Jun 15, 2013
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My wife and I are new at all this. We were raised in the city but our daughters got us into horses 20 years ago which has led to us buying 20 acres that we are developing into a horse farm as we move towards retirement. Five acres are in woods, 11 in pasture and the other 4 between the house, lawn, 7-stall barn, 85'x150' arena and 1800' of gravel driveways which we've had all built in the last year. We've got 6 horses now and the mare is pregnant so we are filling up fast.

So why do I need a tractor? I initially thought about getting a UTV but after research it did not appear like it would do what I would need it to but it definitely has some advantages in mobility so maybe I will be able to get one in the future. I've tried to follow the advice I've seen here and list what I would need a tractor for to figure out the right size and model. Here's what I came up with...

The important thing first - I will NOT need a snowblower! I left that 40 years ago when I moved south! :)

What I will need to do is mow! Prior to building the previous owner had an arrangement which I kept where a guy mowed the pasture and kept the hay for his cows. However, with fencing now and the horses eating I want to upgrade the pasture quality so I'm having someone spray Grazeon to kill the weeds so I can start to hopefully see that Bermuda flourish. I mowed the front 6 acres this past week since it had not been cut since last year and it took me 15 hours with my zero turn mower to cut through all of weeds, tall grass, thistle, manure piles and fire ant hills! :( My land has a gentle grade and the ZTM worked fine but I really need a beefier rough cut mower (Is that a bushhog?) to cut the pastures. I'll save the ZTM for the finish cut lawn around the house. Consequently I would probably not need a finishing mower for the tractor.

If the pasture eventually need to be reestablished I could try to do it myself with the tractor (maybe rent a disc or tiller some other implements for the 3PH) but could also have someone else do it since it would not be a recurring thing.

The next thing I will need is some type of harrow to groom the working surface of the arena but also to break up the manure piles in the pasture.

Speaking of manure, I expect that I will eventually need to haul a manure spreader to distribute the soiled shavings and manure once the we have more show horses that we would probably keep in the stalls more although I eventually really want to build a composting setup at some point. I'm thinking I would use the loader to carry the stall cleanouts to the compost facility, then use the loader to load and haul the manure spreader. If I'm real lucky I would sell the well seasoned compost and just take a bucket load to someone's truck.

I can see myself putting in some posts for more fencing but would probably just rent a post hole digger when I needed one to fit on the 3 point hitch.

Speaking of fencing, I can see myself spraying roundup around the fence line on a semi regular basis to kill the grass so I don't have to mow under the 4000 feet of 4-board fence. I guess that would need some kind of sprayer. Probably some kind of hand held gun would do the trick.

Once in a while I would probably try to bush hog the riding trails that go through our back 5 acres (and connect with neighbors). I'd probably do some firewood cutting as well and haul the cut firewood up to the house.

The big thing would be to see if I could build my own Pole Barn to put a roof over my 33' LQ Horse trailer as well as a place to store hay, shavings and the tractor and implements. I'm not sure I could do it as I've never tried anything like that before but I am pretty handy with tools and have finished several basements but this is getting into something completely different than what I'm used to doing. If I tried this I would probably need to level the ground, dig the post holes, haul materials, etc. with the tractor.

One other thing I would probably try to do is use the tractor as an emergency generator and get one that hooks onto the 3P hitch.

Now that you know what I am looking at doing, let me tell you that I have tried to research the choices online as best as I can. I've made trips to orange and green dealers who are both pretty close and reputable from what I'm told and sat on a B2920, L3200 and the equivalent JDs. The L3200 seemed like too much tractor for me (I don't plan on being a full time farmer - I'm retiring and look at this as more of a hobby). I did not care for the JD products..the Series 1 looked a little light weight and the 3032 seemed too large. It seems to the novice in me that something in the upper end of the B line would work well for me. Consequently, I've been trying to research as best I can the B2920, B3300SU and the B3200. I definitely want an HST as the wife will probably want to drive it as well (after all she will tell you this is HER farm!)

Do these sound like the right models for what I am looking to do...Could/Should I go bigger or smaller than these?

If I'm in the right neighborhood, any advice on these three models?

Important Differences I see (Just tractor and loader):

B2920 - $18777
3cyl - 77ci
29/21 HP
Ground Clearance - 12.8"
LA364 Loader - LH:78.6" - 952#

B3200 - $19519
4cyl - 91.5ci
32/23 HP
Ground Clearance - 14.6"
LA504 Loader - LH:82.6" - 1065#

B3300SU - $18704
33/25 HP
4cyl - 91.5ci
Ground Clearance - 14.6"
LA504 Loader - LH:82.6" -1065#

Looks like the B3300SU is a special package of the B3200 minus the belly PTO, the drawbar and the cruise control which I think is standard on the others. I assume subtracting the belly PTO is why the HP ratings are slightly higher. I could add the other items as options for $100 or so.

Since I don't think I would need the belly PTO it looks like either the B2920 or the B3300SU would be the right mower for me.

Thoughts?

Also, I only live an hour or so from the Georgia Kubota factories. Anyone know if they have a factory outlet or anything like that? Can anyone recommend good dealers here in the Atlanta/Athens area?

One other thing. I assume the prices above are the MSRP and do not include any rebates and are eligible for the 0% financing. Is reasonable to assume that if I paid cash I could get it for, say, 15-20% less?

One more...any recommendations on the mower, other implements, etc.
 

gssixgun

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Looks like you have done your research..

Something I have learned in the last year is the only advice I can give you,

Buy the biggest heaviest tractor that fits your budget, and fits inside the area that you need to work..

Having had a smaller L185 and then moving to a much larger L3600 the ease at which the larger tractor does the work has me using it more and more.. I am way more confident in adding more chores to the list...
 

hodge

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We have a working horse farm that my daughter and dad run- 11 horses currently and a companion donkey. We have about 20 acres in pasture, with woods and gravel driveways. From what you described, my personal opinion is that the L3200 would be about right, and really the minimum for what you want to do. You need to take into account 2 things- always buy bigger than what you think you need, and your needs will change as the project progresses. I think the other choices will be too small for what you want now and may very well need in the future. What if you chose to use round bales? You will need the bigger tractor to move them. I think you will find later that you needed more tractor.
We use a NH 3930 (50 hp) and a Bobcat 643 skidsteer. I have a B7100 that I use to mow the yard and other small projects, but the bigger tractor and skidsteer are a must. I'm not saying that our way is the final or best way- just what we have found that works best for us. And, I say us because my daughter does the training, stalls, grooming, etc., dad does the paperwork, I do a majority of the grunt work like mowing, weedeating, keeping things clean, maintenance. A horse farm, especially when you are running a business versus your own personal use, takes a lot of work. The right tractor is invaluable.
 

gpreuss

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I agree with Hodge on this - go for an L3200. It has about 1/4 ton more weight; it will lift, push and pull more. With the additional weight, you can more easily run a 5' or 6' brush hog - go for heavy duty, to last. The L3200 has a size or two larger tires, for better traction.
You will thank yourself if you get a sun shade.
 

IDKUBOTA

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If you go with the l3200/3800 frame, I'd consider the l3800. I use this for a 6 acre hobby farm and a couple of times this year would have preferred a bigger tractor (for lifting capacity). The l4600 or an m series would do a lot for you. If you move big hay bales then you will want carrying capacity of at least - thousand pounds with the loader. Good luck with your decisions.
 

Eric McCarthy

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The L32/38 gets my vote for a productive tractor to suit your needs. If you find a decent dealer you could expect to pay 15-20% LESS then MSRP. And NO Kubota does not have a factory outlet anywhere to buy at a savings. Dealers only sell them.
 

chim

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My property and activities are considerably less than you are into. For 10 years my B7500 served well but frequently came up short on weight or horses. Went with an L3200 last year and what a difference it made! Mine - HST/FEL R4's - cost a few grand less than the B3300SU you are looking at.
 

DanDan

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Also going to recommend the L3200/L3800, for all the reasons mentioned previously. For a pittance more in price you get a lot more tractor.

Also, size-wise the L3200 is really not much bigger height/width/length than the B3300- just a lot heavier which, on the farm, is good.
 

Russell King

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Look around a little at the rental yards to see if you can rent the different size tractors and use them for a day.

May help in the decision process if you can afford the rental fees!

Some people are starting to use the articulated wheel loaders with attachments that are for skid steer equipment.
 

Hook

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As others have suggested, go with the L series.
 

skeets

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My baby moved all the hay burners out to Calf ( Arabs) and she swears by the L 3200 they have.
 

DanDan

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I bought a new B3300SU and after 20-25 hours I hated the vibration and swapped it for the smooth running heavier L3200. Great move. I love it. Go fir the L.
After test-driving both the L3200 and a B3300SU, I remarked to the sales guy how much smoother I thought the L was. I asked him how some people can stand the vibration in the B3300. He said something like "A lot of folks who buy the B3300, buy them for other people to use".. I understood him to mean that they are buying them for a business or concern where an employee operates the tractor.

I was totally sold on the L series when he pointed out the axles: while the rated engine power is similar in both tractors, the L3200 rear axle is an order of magnitude beefier than the B.

Ended up buying a used L2600 that fell in my lap the week that I was going to order my L3200 :D
 

Atlanta Panther

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Kubota L3200HST with Loaded R4 Tires, LA524 Loader and Quick Connect 66" bucket
Jun 15, 2013
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Madison, Ga
Ok ...you convinced me: L3200...now more Qs...

Any particular options I should get on it? I'm thinking HST, 4WD, R4s, FEL with 60" bucket, bucket rod lever indicator kit (don't know what this does but its only a few bucks), telescopic stabilizers, drawbar clevis, cruise control. Any thoughts on the sunshade vs the deluxe canopy? May get other things later but this will more than exhaust the budget for now. The MSRP on the website comes to $21,924.

I saw where folks said it is reasonable to ask for 15% off MSRP for cash. Would that be in ADDITION to the $2000 Kubota is giving for a rebate on the L3200? If this is the case it sounds like I should be able to get the one specd out above for $21,924 - 15% = $18,635 -$2000 = $16,635. Is this unreasonable?

Speaking of rebates, I saw where Kubota says the rebates and 0% financing ends 6/30/13. Anyone know if it will be extended? I want to move on this but don't know if I can get it done before the end of the month. I want to have exactly what I want and then shop price from as many dealers as I can before pulling the trigger.

Can you give me recommendations on the rough cut mower, harrow for the arena, and box blade(?) to smooth out the gravel driveway. Is Land Pride good quality stuff? Any particular models?

Yea, I know...I'll post pictures!!!
 

TripleR

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I get a minimum of two rear remotes on my tractors and the last had three. A hydraulic top link is one of the handiest options you can have.

Land Pride makes very good equipment and the BB25 should be about right for your tractor, there are cheaper alternatives, just be sure you get good quality with plenty of weight on box scraper.

There seems to be no end of options and most of us are limited only by budget.
 

rparkinson

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yup, get the remotes, now is the time. I did not think I would want them until I saw a top and tilt.. I myself got R4's loaded rears, 66" QA bucket. I just bought a thumb and am adding hydraulic remotes to the front for the thumb I run chains all the way around but I move alot of snow, I assume you dont in GA... I also have a box blade and a Woods york rake. Great implements if you are doing any ground work. Good luck.
 

Atlanta Panther

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Kubota L3200HST with Loaded R4 Tires, LA524 Loader and Quick Connect 66" bucket
Jun 15, 2013
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Madison, Ga
I know this is a dumb question but...

what are hydraulic remotes and what are they used for? Particular implements I assume? Which ones? (I'm wondering if these are things I will ever need. Can these be added later?

Kubota says:

1ST POSITION DOUBLE ACTING VALVE KIT - $501
HYDRAULIC HOSE KIT FOR TRACTORS WITH LOADERS - $235.00

SECOND POSITION VALVE KIT$50.00
AND
1 DETENT VALVE (NON-SELF-CANCELING) - $273.00
OR
1 FLOAT DETENT VALVE - $319.00

3RD POSITION VALVE MOUNTING KIT - $50.00
AND
1 or 2 of each of the valves above.
 

TripleR

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Rear remotes are used for such things as hydraulic top link, side link or attachments that require hydraulics. I have Top and Tilt which is hydraulically adjustable top and side link in addition to a box scraper with hydraulic scarifiers. Two of our rotary cutters also use hydraulic height adjustment. I would get at lest one float, I didn't and wish I had.

MtnViewRanch sells them and can give you more examples.
 

rparkinson

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Yes, get at least one float valve. You may not need it now, but you will more then likely find a need for it at some point and time. Also, I dont know if you are financing the machine but if you are it will be easier to do it now on the banks dime instead of having to scratch up 800-1000 bucks cash later when you decide you wish had them installed when you set up the machine. Get 2 minimum... I got my top and tilt from Brian over at fitritehydraulics.com and its great. Esp. with the box blade and rake. Well, anything really... Time to chime in and finish the sale Brian... ha ha... I am working on commission... But really he is a good guy with an awesome product.