What to pay for 2008 L4400 HST

[North Idaho Wolfman]

I’ll get some pics tomorrow. ill look for that giant hunk of metal.

This is what a subframe for a BH would look like.

 

[SilverEagle]

This is what a subframe for a BH would look like.

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Thanks, I looked it up, no pricing shown. Will check it out tomorrow

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Thanks, I looked it up, no pricing shown. Will check it out tomorrow

Buying that subframe really wouldn't do you much good, as that BH itself does not have the other half of what you would need to attach it.

This is the part of the BH that attaches to the subframe above.
It would be very pricey top make that part to fit a three point BH.

You would be much better off selling the three point BH for whatever you can get for it and buying the 4 point (subframe) BH.

 

[GreensvilleJay]

FWIW, curious, looked it up, that 'frame' piece( #005) is $3500 CDN !!!

 

[SilverEagle]

FWIW, curious, looked it up, that 'frame' piece( #005) is $3500 CDN !!!

 

[SilverEagle]

I called Betstco, which makes the BH 9, talked with their tech suoervisor. He said they use a 4 pt mounting system. I’m attaching part of the brochure. Going to go check it out and see if it operates.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

I think someone is pulling your leg.
I'm only pointing this out because It really does matter for the health of the tractor.
Three point mounted BH's damage tractors!

This is a picture off their web site of the mount they use.
They can call it whatever they want, but that's a three point mounted BH!

 

[McMXi]

I'm only pointing this out because It really does matter for the health of the tractor.
Three point mounted BH's damage tractors!

This is a picture off their web site of the mount they use.
They can call it whatever they want, but that's a three point mounted BH!

Under Key Features in the brochure that @SilverEagle posted it states:

"Rigid 4th point mounting eliminates need for frame mount"

So you're absolutely right that this a 3-point mounted backhoe with a 4th member.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Under Key Features in the brochure that @SilverEagle posted it states:

"Rigid 4th point mounting eliminates need for frame mount"

So you're absolutely right that this a 3-point mounted backhoe with a 4th member.

Yea they are playing the pig with lipstick game!

 

[old and tired]

There are plenty of people that run 3 point hitch backhoes that don't break their tractors in half... yes there are a few that do break.

Does anyone have a guess (or know) what percent of them break? I don't... seriously asking. My guess is less than 5% but that is a wild (you know what) guess.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

There are plenty of people that run 3 point hitch backhoes that don't break their tractors in half... yes there are a few that do break.

Does anyone have a guess (or know) what percent of them break? I don't... seriously asking. My guess is less than 5% but that is a wild (you know what) guess.

I have seen more broken tractors from three point BH use, than tractors without damage that are using a three point BH.
Most do not know they have damage till it becomes extreme.

 

[old and tired]

I have seen more broken tractors from three point BH use, than tractors without damage that are using a three point BH.
Most do not know they have damage till it becomes extreme.

So, are you saying more than 50 percent of the tractors with backhoes break? Just trying to get a feel for how many... Maybe that's for another thread with a graph/survey...

 

[GrumpyFarmer]

So, are you saying more than 50 percent of the tractors with backhoes break? Just trying to get a feel for how many... Maybe that's for another thread with a graph/survey...

I read it as its not uncommon that those that choose to use the three point backhoes break tractors.

 

[RCW]

So, are you saying more than 50 percent of the tractors with backhoes break? Just trying to get a feel for how many... Maybe that's for another thread with a graph/survey...

Far from scientific, but I was around a John Deere with a 3-PH backhoe. Friend bought it new 20+ years ago.

Sure enough, it got busted at the housing for top link.

So, I guess it’s 100% for me….just poking fun of course.

 

[old and tired]

So, I guess it’s 100% for me…. just poking fun of course.

No problem... I guess I've known 3 and 1 had it's bolts ripped out of the top link (easy fix). So, actually, 33.34% failure rate.

 

[SilverEagle]

Here are some pics of the tractor I’m considering buying. 20.3 hours. Runs great, bucket, forks, loader all work as expected. I’m just concerned about the 3 or 4 pt hook up. I called five Kubota dealers and a few other suppliers and no one has a frame mount. If I can find one, prices are around $2500. Not sure my anxiety on this purchase is being quelled. Thanks to all for your comments.

 

[hedgerow]

I ran a three point back hoe on a JD 3020 for twenty years and did a lot of digging with that hoe and never had a issue with it. I didn't use it like it was a 20 ton track hoe either tearing out giant stumps with it. Sold the complete set up to a fiend years ago and he still is using it and has never has had a problem. Can you break your tractor with a three point hoe yes you can. If you use that back hoe with in reason it will be fine and sure will be nice to have around to repair a frost free hydrant, install a water line or what ever digging job you have. I have repaired and seen a lot of front end loaders broken on tractors. Never broke one myself. Its like everything it can be broken. I wouldn't be scared of that set up . I sure don't know were your going to find a cleaner used tractor. I would get it bought and enjoy the tractor.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

I ran a three point back hoe on a JD 3020 for twenty years and did a lot of digging with that hoe and never had a issue with it. I didn't use it like it was a 20 ton track hoe either tearing out giant stumps with it. Sold the complete set up to a fiend years ago and he still is using it and has never has had a problem. Can you break your tractor with a three point hoe yes you can. If you use that back hoe with in reason it will be fine and sure will be nice to have around to repair a frost free hydrant, install a water line or what ever digging job you have. I have repaired and seen a lot of front end loaders broken on tractors. Never broke one myself. Its like everything it can be broken. I wouldn't be scared of that set up . I sure don't know were your going to find a cleaner used tractor. I would get it bought and enjoy the tractor.

Did your 3020 have a cast aluminum housing that the three point was mounted too.
Nope it was cast Iron, big difference in strength.

 

[D2Cat]

Did your 3020 have a cast aluminum housing that the three point was mounted too.
Nope it was cast Iron, big difference in strength.

A BUNCH of difference!

 

[SilverEagle]

A BUNCH of difference!