LX2610 vs Bobcat CT2025

[DinoEdwards]

Interesting enough, I’m actually looking for a Kioti CK2610 / CK2620 / Bobcat CT2025. If the stars align I’ll probably purchase one, sometime this summer with the intention of Turbocharging it.

Yes, I’m keeping the L2501.

Mike

Called Bobcat dealer today and looked up the machine and said no recalls never been for service I can do 50hr myself and they will honor the aftermarket warranty until 2027.
Just offered 17k and Bobcat guy said maybe without trailer. These came/come as package deals, seen them online in Geo. for 22k brand new with same bushhog and trailer. 11hrs away or I'd go. He wants 20,500 for a 2021 with 39hrs, I think 17-18k is far not 20,500

 

[McMXi]

I recently went with a new Kioti Ck2620 cab over a Kubota LX 2620 cab due to large price difference (8k) and hate of the rocking pedal. Only have about 40 hours on it but I know I made the right choice. Such a comfortable tractor and no trannie whine.

The build prices of the LX 2620 and Kioti CK2620 cab models on Kubota's and Kioti's websites is basically the same at around $36k, so the $8k difference seems odd. Kioti can offer a 22% discount off MSRP?

I have to say that I find the smaller Kioti cabbed tractors odd looking with that afterthought of a cab cap. It looks like it came out of the parts bin and is stuffed on top of the glass. The bigger Kioti tractors look fine to me and I'd definitely consider an RX or HX if I were looking for another tractor.

No offense intended, just my own observation and reaction.

 

[Sidekick]

The build prices of the LX 2620 and Kioti CK2620 cab models on Kubota's and Kioti's websites is basically the same at around $36k, so the $8k difference seems odd. Kioti can offer a 22% discount off MSRP?

I have to say that I find the smaller Kioti cabbed tractors odd looking with that afterthought of a cab cap. It looks like it came out of the parts bin and is stuffed on top of the glass. The bigger Kioti tractors look fine to me and I'd definitely consider an RX or HX if I were looking for another tractor.

No offense intended, just my own observation and reaction.

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Mine came with the free loader program, cash rebate, dealer discount, free rim guard because it was a five star dealership, and the 8% sales tax on the price difference that added up to just a tiny bit under $8k on the bottom line of both quotes. The LX quote had the larger tire option to match the Kioti, rim guard, and added second rear remote plus front remote to match the Kioti quote.

 

[Orange man]

I just got a quote on a CK2620 rops tractor and it was 7000 less than a L2502.

 

[McMXi]

Mine came with the free loader program, cash rebate, dealer discount, free rim guard because it was a five star dealership, and the 8% sales tax on the price difference that added up to just a tiny bit under $8k on the bottom line of both quotes. The LX quote had the larger tire option to match the Kioti, rim guard, and added second rear remote plus front remote to match the Kioti quote.

Well the front end loader is around $5,100 so that'll do it I suppose.

 

[McMXi]

I just got a quote on a CK2620 rops tractor and it was 7000 less than a L2502.

Does the Kioti quote include a loader at no charge like @Sidekick? At the end of the day, all that matters is that the person paying for the tractor is happy with the choice they made. Every time I look at or use either of my tractors it makes me happy, and after some help from across the border I'm happier still.

Had I bought the RX7320 that I received a quote for I'm sure it would have made me happy too. But as I've said many times, when you have a great relationship with a local dealer and a known product, who has a great facility and reputation, it's kind of hard to put faith in an unknown product with no dealer support closer than 2 hours drive.

 

[Orange man]

Yes the price is with the free loader, I wanted a L2502 but with the engine problems they are having I started looking around. When you add the factory style rear remotes the price gap widens even more,

 

[Sidekick]

The Kioti cab has much more floor room then the LX and is much easier to enter and exit. Those bumps in the roof sides are for easy removal of the filters for the fresh air entering the cab. The filters pull out over the doors and take seconds to swap. Really nice clean air in the cab with the intake ducts on the side and less noise from the engine or implements. Also more ducts up under the roof for even distribution of heat and air. I did have to replace the cheap tinny speakers it came with and the radio sounds good now. I prefer proper design over looks on something like a tractor. The TYM 474 48hp cab I also got a price on was much lower then the LX, 2k higher then the Kioti but it was not the best fit and finish and had plastic fenders and hood. Kioti had the best seat and quality of them all after comparing them. All quotes had hydro transmissions and gear was only about 1k lower.

 

[dirtydeed]

They (KIOTI) do have an awfully nice loader control knob. I have one on my B2650...and its really comfy!

 

[Orange man]

The new ones have the third function buttons built in too

 

[Sidekick]

Yes the price is with the free loader, I wanted a L2502 but with the engine problems they are having I started looking around. When you add the factory style rear remotes the price gap widens even more,

The base 2620 doesn't come with rear remotes. They are additional unless you go to the 3520se that comes with remotes, mat, mirrors, cruise, 3point extenders, and auto pto. The cab models have everything.

 

[McMXi]

The Kioti cab has much more floor room then the LX and is much easier to enter and exit. Those bumps in the roof sides are for easy removal of the filters for the fresh air entering the cab. The filters pull out over the doors and take seconds to swap. Really nice clean air in the cab with the intake ducts on the side and less noise from the engine or implements. Also more ducts up under the roof for even distribution of heat and air. I did have to replace the cheap tinny speakers it came with and the radio sounds good now. I prefer proper design over looks on something like a tractor. The TYM 474 48hp cab I also got a price on was much lower then the LX, 2k higher then the Kioti but it was not the best fit and finish and had plastic fenders and hood. Kioti had the best seat and quality of them all after comparing them. All quotes had hydro transmissions and gear was only about 1k lower.

I don't have those bumps on either of my tractors and have no problem accessing the cab filters. As for design over looks, I'd rather have both regardless of what it is.

I actually prefer not having A/C ducting in the cap since in that configuration it's much closer to a considerable heat source (the roof) during the summer months. Not an issue in the winter with either tractor in terms of heat, but on a 95°F day the M6060 will make it cold in the cab, the MX not so much. It'll be interesting to see if there's a difference this summer in the MX cab now that there's a lot less heat being generated under the hood. I could always add some insulation but I have a long list of more pressing upgrades.

 

[Orange man]

The base 2620 doesn't come with rear remotes. They are additional unless you go to the 3520se that comes with remotes, mat, mirrors, cruise, 3point extenders, and auto pto. The cab models have everything.

The Kubota remote kit was 1700 and the Kioti kit was 500

 

[Sidekick]

I don't have those bumps on either of my tractors and have no problem accessing the cab filters. As for design over looks, I'd rather have both regardless of what it is.

I actually prefer not having A/C ducting in the cap since in that configuration it's much closer to a considerable heat source (the roof) during the summer months. Not an issue in the winter with either tractor in terms of heat, but on a 95°F day the M6060 will make it cold in the cab, the MX not so much. It'll be interesting to see if there's a difference this summer in the MX cab now that there's a lot less heat being generated under the hood. I could always add some insulation but I have a long list of more pressing upgrades.

My cab gets extremely cold in the summer. Just had to run the blower fan on the first setting to be comfortable. All that glass takes a good ac system on all the tractors.
Lately while plowing I have found running the ac compressor in the beginning keeps fog caused by breathing moisture from accumulating on the ice cold glass. A couple minutes later it's warm and clear. So nice to be warm and listening to music with a 10 below wind chill outside. A cab tractor definitely spoils you.
I am also surprised how little smoke comes out when cold starting. My old deere and Kubota BX both put out a cloud of black smoke the first couple seconds stinking the garage up. This has one tiny puff and that's it at 5 degrees. So far I totally love it.
One thing I find is the 3rd function can not build full pressure when the loader cylinders are moving at the same time. Everything slows down some. For grabbing tight with the grapple I just actuate the third function before moving the loader. It is very easy with the button location once my mind was programed.

 

[Sidekick]

The Kubota remote kit was 1700 and the Kioti kit was 500

I remember the Kubota remote and third function also required another kit of some sort to get everything working on the LX. Those little items add up quick. Even was charges for things like wheel stops and install when going with the big tire option. My factory 3rd function was $1500 with the install charges.

 

[McMXi]

I am also surprised how little smoke comes out when cold starting. My old deere and Kubota BX both put out a cloud of black smoke the first couple seconds stinking the garage up. This has one tiny puff and that's it at 5 degrees. So far I totally love it.
One thing I find is the 3rd function can not build full pressure when the loader cylinders are moving at the same time. Everything slows down some. For grabbing tight with the grapple I just actuate the third function before moving the loader. It is very easy with the button location once my mind was programed.

Yeah, the little BX25 I had was a smokey bugger at start up. Not the case at all with the MX or M, either before or after the Canadian invasion.

Doesn't your Kioti have a dual hydraulic pump with some surprisingly high flow rate?

 

[McMXi]

I remember the Kubota remote and third function also required another kit of some sort to get everything working on the LX. Those little items add up quick. Even was charges for things like wheel stops and install when going with the big tire option. My factory 3rd function was $1500 with the install charges.

As a point of comparison, third function on the MX was $1,200 installed, and $1,700 installed on the M6060. It would be interesting to see the difference in cost of these things for all models. The costs for a 25hp tractor e.g. third function, rear remotes, etc., might not be much different than the costs for a 100hp tractor.

 

[Sidekick]

Yeah, the little BX25 I had was a smokey bugger at start up. Not the case at all with the MX or M, either before or after the Canadian invasion.

Doesn't your Kioti have a dual hydraulic pump with some surprisingly high flow rate?

No, I think it's a single 11.7 gpm pump for everything. Divided to about 3 for steering and 8 for implements. The TYM I looked at had a double pump with very high flow like you mentioned.
With the auto throttle most loader work I have done is under 1000 rpm and it's pretty responsive.
This is just a mechanical injection with no computer, egr, or filters so I really expected more smoke when cold just like the other 2 I had. I think when I turn it up to the 30 hp it will probably change though.