Like I said….Know YOUR states laws.
I don’t give a sh!t what Indiana law says. I live in Texas where TEXAS law applies.
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I don’t give a sh!t what Indiana law says. I live in Texas where TEXAS law applies.
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heck, I'm impressed you HELPED the guy out. Me, I'd have grabbed a chair, cooler of bevs, some good tunes, sat and watched the river come up
Nope. That's the common misunderstanding, but it's not true at all. The sign makers make good money on that wrong idea, but it's completely wrong.
"Posting" simply means putting up a sign. It has nothing to do with the content of the sign, and it does NOT mean that you must. or even should, use the word, "posted" on your sign. Once you put up a sign, ANY sign, your property is POSTED.
You might want to look into why we have a United States Post Office, and why it's called that. It goes back to the Middle Ages (at least) when news was communicated by runners nailing up notices on POSTS in the village square. It's why we have newspapers with names like "New York Post" or " The Washington Post". It's why people used to POST things on a bulletin board.
POSTING is a way of sharing news, or giving notice. It's not a word that goes on a sign.
I will never, NEVER understand why it is so difficult for so many people to grasp the concept that different states have different laws on a wide variety of topics.
Right turn on red, anyone? How about that left lane on the highway being for passing only? Purple paint? Pistachios on pizza?
Depends on your state.
Well, maybe not the pistachios. That's a food crime anywhere you go!
Post it then!
Show me a law in any state that says you must, or even may, use the actual word, "posted" on any signage.
What you'll find is that the law says your property must be posted, NOT that you must use the actual word, "posted". To post your property means to take the action of putting up signs which notify the public of the fact that your property is private. Some states spell out the required wording, or suggest acceptable wording.
By the way, just for your viewing pleasure, here's the Texas penal code on trespassing. Nothing there about putting the word, "posted" on a sign. I've looked at a few states over the years when people have argued this point, and have not seen that requirement yet. Maybe there's a state where the legislators are that ignorant, but I haven't seen it yet.
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But do two signs with one stating the words “POSTED NO TRESPASSING” and the other “NO TRESPASSING” both satisfy the requirements of the law? I say yes and you can get them both from the same store. Other stores only sell one or the other signs. You buy what is produced and available. I don’t know of anyone that is painting there own signs but they can if they choose to.
I also see that the State of Texas has changed the size and shape of the purple markings, I recall it was a ring around the tree that was six inch width. I find it funny that it is purple since that will fade to some indistinguishable color in short order in the sunlight in Texas. But I assume that requires the owner to regularly renew his notification for no trespassing and was intentionally done. I use the fence method myself with no signage.
In Texas 'Posted' signs are generally regarded to convey the same message as No Trespassing or the property is private, etc.
Typically they will look like this, but can also be a sign simply saying 'posted'.
There are other means by which private property/no trespassing 'notice' may be given, such as fencing, purple paint and even the existence of crops.
So...it IS important to seek out the laws (and customary usage of signs) in each State.
OK…I don’t care to take the time necessary to educate someone acting so….. but using YOUR OWN message…. (and despite the fact that the penal code describing tresspass is Not the only statue which applies)….
… What part of paragraph 2. (C) ….do you not understand?
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(C) a sign or signs posted on the property or at the entrance to the building, reasonably likely to come to the attention of intruders, indicating that entry is forbidden;
Nowhere does this say the word "posted" must be on the sign.
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I never insinuated you cared about Indiana law. But you made this statement without referencing any particular state so I assumed you meant all states with the purple paint law. The reason why Indiana adopted the purple paint law was because signs were difficult to put up and maintain, and were constantly being ripped off and discarded by trespassers. The purple paint makes it much easier to mark your property and is not so easily discarded as a sign is. The purple paint is all that is needed. And you would be surprised by how many people know what it means. My girlfriend is not an outdoors person whatsoever, but she even knows what the purple paint means.
This is getting stupid. Nowhere did I say that the sign MUST SAY “posted”.
A sign which DOES say “posted” however…. is all that is necessary in my locale to indicate “private propery, no tresspassing”. The word ”posted” can be used as a verb…as you and Mark seem wont to do…. but like many words, it can carry several different meanings. In the case which is on a sign here in Texas it descriptively and legally means “This property is properly posted against tresspass”…. and is all that is necessary per the law in this area.
I’m thru with this one.
It is not often that the Geo man and I agree on much of anything, but he is correct on this account.
Perhaps it is interpreted differently in other parts of the Country, but in Texas, 'Posted' does have specific meaning.
Is that to be considered a promise? By the way, you misused the word "thru" it should be "through"! Also, "trespass" only has 3 s, not 4. See you at the next debate/argument.
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Grandpa solved the trespassing problem with a fence and 1,200lbs bull that didn't like people.
Trespassing stopped. No sign or paint was needed.
Trespassing stopped. No sign or paint was needed.
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Nope he actually had a cow bell. You could always hear when he was moving fast. Grandpa would tell a story of two hunters who thought they would cut through the farm. He was out feeding the pigs, heard some screaming and then heard the bell ringing fast. He moved around the barn just in time to see one guy take a flying header over the fence and the other to dive and roll. They came to the house and asked grandpa if he would get their gear for them, since it all got dropped. He told them for $20 from each of them he would get the gear, which they got mad and said they would call the sheriff. He told them to call. He said a few minutes later he had $40 bucks and they got their gear back. Grandma and him had a nice dinner in town that night.hmm, did the bull have a 'posted no trespassing' sign around his neck ?
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NICE !!!!! Sheriff probably had a good laugh when they called !!!
Kinda sad though $40 won't buy 1st round of 'ordurves' (sp) these days.
Kinda sad though $40 won't buy 1st round of 'ordurves' (sp) these days.
Arkansas Code Title 18. Property § 18-11-405. Methods of posting--Property other than forest
Current as of March 28, 2024 | Updated by FindLaw Staff
The owner or lessee of any real property other than forest land, including cultivated land, orchards, pasture land, impoundments, or other real property, may post such real property by any of the following methods:
(1)(A) By placing signs around the boundaries of the property at points no more than one thousand feet (1,000') apart and at each point of entry.
(B) The signs shall bear the words “posted” or “no trespassing”, or both, in letters at least four inches (4”) high and shall be so placed as to be readily visible to any person approaching the property;
(2)(A) By placing identifying paint marks on posts around the area to be posted.
(B) Each paint mark shall be a vertical line of at least eight inches (8”) in length, and the bottom of the mark shall be no less than three feet (3') nor more than five feet (5') high.
(C) Such paint marks shall be placed no more than one thousand feet (1,000') apart and at each point of entry and shall be readily visible to any person approaching the property.
(D)(i) The type and color of the paint to be used for posting shall be prescribed by rule by the Arkansas Forestry Commission.
(ii) The commission shall not select a color that is presently being used by the timber industry in Arkansas to mark land lines or property lines; or
(3) By enclosing the property with a fence sufficient under § 2-39-101 et seq.