B8200 Brake Refurbish

cmyoch

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I posted this same question on a Kubota Facebook page I belong to. Not sure what kind of response I will get from there. I have brakes that are non existent on my B8200. I believe this to be a relatively lower hour machine but it spent all of its life outside in the elements (based on the condition of the sheet metal). I adjusted the brake rod as far as it would go and still have no brakes whatsoever. Last night, I took the brake assembly apart expecting a mess in side. I'm surprised to see what appears to me as a healthy amount of material left on the shoes. The drum was dry but full of dust and dirt. My first inclination is to wash this all down, scuff the drum and shoes, and see if they work again. If not, what are the tolerances for the components so I can measure and see what needs to be replaced? Here are pictures of everything when I pulled off the cover. The pivot point turns freely and the shoes move out without issue. What suggestions do you guys have?
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Take the shoes off and replace them. If you can't find some replacements, clean what you have and take them to a brake and clutch repair shop. They can reline the shoes. Get new wheel cylinder and install.

That damage is not from just setting out 30 years, it's been in some deep water!!
 
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cmyoch

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Take the shoes off and replace them. If you can't find some replacements, clean what you have and take them to a brake and clutch repair shop. They can reline the shoes. Get new wheel cylinder and install.

That damage is not from just setting out 30 years, it's been in some deep water!!
This is good to know! I know nothing about the history of this machine. It was on my uncle's property and was used as a spare tractor to pull wagons. I assumed he purchased it initially as a parts tractor but it runs too well to be scrapped. I'll go ahead and get new parts for it.
 

cmyoch

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Called my local dealer and searched Messicks. Good Lord!! These parts must be made from precious metal. $435 per side just for the shoes!

A simple Google search is showing them in the $150 range per side which is better but still not cheap for small brake shoes. I don't have anywhere in the Midwest, St. Louis area that relines shoes that I can find just yet.

Where have you purchased brake parts from or where can I send these off to get relined? Any suggestions would be helpful.
 

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If this is a low budget repair, do what you were planning and see what happens. If they work they work, if not you know what you need. I do have concerns about removing that drum, hopefully there are some puller holes to help get it off if needed, it is as much of the problem as the shoes are.
 
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cmyoch

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If this is a low budget repair, do what you were planning and see what happens. If they work they work, if not you know what you need. I do have concerns about removing that drum, hopefully there are some puller holes to help get it off if needed, it is as much of the problem as the shoes are.
I admit I was surprised that everything unbolted very easy. Although rusty, all nuts and bolts for the wheel, fender, brake cover, etc. came off without issue. Maybe a little penetrating oil on the spline before I attempt to remove should do the trick.
 
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I admit I was surprised that everything unbolted very easy. Although rusty, all nuts and bolts for the wheel, fender, brake cover, etc. came off without issue. Maybe a little penetrating oil on the spline before I attempt to remove should do the trick.
Be sure you remove the circlip at the end of the splined shaft (that I think I see in your picture)
 

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If it were me, I would get a wire brush and some sandpaper/emery cloth, and a few cans of brake cleaner and "have at it."

I bet you could get them "good nuff" with a little "elbow grease".

They look like simple "drum brakes", so I would venture to say that their efficiency is probably minimal, at best, even if all new parts were had.
 
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woodman55

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If it were me, I would get a wire brush and some sandpaper/emery cloth, and a few cans of brake cleaner and "have at it."

I bet you could get them "good nuff" with a little "elbow grease".

They look like simple "drum brakes", so I would venture to say that their efficiency is probably minimal, at best, even if all new parts were had.
DO NOT DO THIS.
But hillbilly me would probably block up the rear of the tractor, put it in high gear at a idle and go at the drums that way. You could even bolt a piece of flat bar across the hole and use a large hand file to to kind of lathe off the build up.
 

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DO NOT DO THIS.
But hillbilly me would probably block up the rear of the tractor, put it in high gear at a idle and go at the drums that way. You could even bolt a piece of flat bar across the hole and use a large hand file to to kind of lathe off the build up.

I fail to see why taking things apart and cleaning things up is a bad thing.

Please expand on why this is a bad idea.
 

cmyoch

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If it were me, I would get a wire brush and some sandpaper/emery cloth, and a few cans of brake cleaner and "have at it."

I bet you could get them "good nuff" with a little "elbow grease".

They look like simple "drum brakes", so I would venture to say that their efficiency is probably minimal, at best, even if all new parts were had.
I just want to be able to stop by brake power, not by running into things, LOL. As long as I can get some pedal to stop, I'll be happy.