T2290 Drive Belt Replacement

Chuckinnj

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Equipment
RTV500, BX2230, T2290
Sep 13, 2020
16
2
3
New Jersey
I have a T2290KWT lawn tractor and I need to change the main drive belt from the engine to the hydro axle along with the idler pulleys......... Any tips?
I cannot find any shop repair info about doing this job.
 

William S.

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Equipment
T2290-KWT48
Jan 16, 2023
5
0
1
Apollo, Pa
I have a T2290KWT lawn tractor and I need to change the main drive belt from the engine to the hydro axle along with the idler pulleys......... Any tips?
I cannot find any shop repair info about doing this job.
Chuckinnj, what year did you buy this mower? Did you ever find any tips or shop repair info that explains how to do this job? I bought the same mower in 2018, and last month I had to shell out over $500 to get a $30 drive belt replaced. Why Kubota engineers decided that attaching a steel plate to the bottom of the tractor was a great idea, is beyond me. Another way to soak more money from their customers…. You would think they would at the very least offer customers that bought this model, with the steel plate on the bottom, either a break on the repair charges, or provide some clear instructions in a shop manual for the DIYer on how to perform this repair. Please let me know if you found anything…. Thanks!
 

William S.

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Equipment
T2290-KWT48
Jan 16, 2023
5
0
1
Apollo, Pa
I have a T2290KWT lawn tractor and I need to change the main drive belt from the engine to the hydro axle along with the idler pulleys......... Any tips?
I cannot find any shop repair info about doing this job.
Chuckinnj, did you ever find any detailed description of how to replace the main drive belt on the T2290KWT? I recently had Kubota replace it for me, and I don’t want to throw them another $500+ dollars, to replace a $30 belt ever again. Kubota Corporation evidentally is happy with their overly complicated engineering they did, hiding the drive belt, so they can rip customers off…. Any information is appreciated!
 

GreensvilleJay

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BX23-S,57 A-C D-14,58 A-C D-14, 57 A-C D-14,tiller,cults,Millcreek 25G spreader,
Apr 2, 2019
11,432
4,914
113
Greensville,Ontario,Canada
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curious, dwg from K Can, I do't see any 'big deal' about replacing the belt,though deck belt has to be off first.The 'route' seems common to MTD, CC, etc.,changed a LOT of them over the years.
 

William S.

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T2290-KWT48
Jan 16, 2023
5
0
1
Apollo, Pa
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curious, dwg from K Can, I do't see any 'big deal' about replacing the belt,though deck belt has to be off first.The 'route' seems common to MTD, CC, etc.,changed a LOT of them over the years.
GrennsvilleJay, is this drawing specifically for the T2290KWT? Are there any detailed instructions that you know of (repair manual, etc.) that describe the process to replace the main drive belt? I’m a pretty good DIYer, that can fix most things, given a manual that describes the process……
 

GreensvilleJay

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Equipment
BX23-S,57 A-C D-14,58 A-C D-14, 57 A-C D-14,tiller,cults,Millcreek 25G spreader,
Apr 2, 2019
11,432
4,914
113
Greensville,Ontario,Canada
I went to Kubota Canada's website, 'parts finder', typed in T2290KWT and only ONE hit. Drawing is from the 'HST' section. I wondered what the 'deal' was as the 'layout' is very,very common.
I do the following...
1) remove deck belt and deck (deck goes on bench for cleaning usually....) frees up 'working space' !
2) clamp clutch down to release drive belt tension
3) remove belt off engine drive pulley,maybe loosen guides if need to....
4) snake belt off the 2 tensioning pulleys
5) drop belt of 'small right rear ' pulley
6) loosen the HST pulley guide if needed
7) carefully snake belt off HST pulley.one hand on each side of belt,hold one, push other, belt gets 'bigger' around pulley, and it'll come off.... Once you do this a couple times, you'll get the hang of it.
8) loose belt comes forward,down and out.

Installation is simple the reverse ,so 5-10 minutes. It helps if you have GOOD lighting !
 

William S.

New member

Equipment
T2290-KWT48
Jan 16, 2023
5
0
1
Apollo, Pa
I went to Kubota Canada's website, 'parts finder', typed in T2290KWT and only ONE hit. Drawing is from the 'HST' section. I wondered what the 'deal' was as the 'layout' is very,very common.
I do the following...
1) remove deck belt and deck (deck goes on bench for cleaning usually....) frees up 'working space' !
2) clamp clutch down to release drive belt tension
3) remove belt off engine drive pulley,maybe loosen guides if need to....
4) snake belt off the 2 tensioning pulleys
5) drop belt of 'small right rear ' pulley
6) loosen the HST pulley guide if needed
7) carefully snake belt off HST pulley.one hand on each side of belt,hold one, push other, belt gets 'bigger' around pulley, and it'll come off.... Once you do this a couple times, you'll get the hang of it.
8) loose belt comes forward,down and out.

Installation is simple the reverse ,so 5-10 minutes. It helps if you have GOOD lighting !
Thanks for the description! I’ll check out the Canadian website as well…..
 

Cowboy Joe

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Equipment
T2290
May 29, 2024
2
0
1
Wisconsin
I went to Kubota Canada's website, 'parts finder', typed in T2290KWT and only ONE hit. Drawing is from the 'HST' section. I wondered what the 'deal' was as the 'layout' is very,very common.
I do the following...
1) remove deck belt and deck (deck goes on bench for cleaning usually....) frees up 'working space' !
2) clamp clutch down to release drive belt tension
3) remove belt off engine drive pulley,maybe loosen guides if need to....
4) snake belt off the 2 tensioning pulleys
5) drop belt of 'small right rear ' pulley
6) loosen the HST pulley guide if needed
7) carefully snake belt off HST pulley.one hand on each side of belt,hold one, push other, belt gets 'bigger' around pulley, and it'll come off.... Once you do this a couple times, you'll get the hang of it.
8) loose belt comes forward,down and out.

Installation is simple the reverse ,so 5-10 minutes. It helps if you have GOOD lighting !
I joined this forum after reading this email in hopes of preventing some people from relying up the content and ruining a nice weekend...expecting this to be a 5 - 10 minute job. With all due respect, this post comes no where near discussing what needs to happen to complete the job. I have limited time and have spread this task out over a few weekends. I have another tractor to use. What the above post does not state is that the following is absolutely required based on my experience. Maybe some can do magic, I cannot. So, you will absolutely need to:
- remove all the linkages under the unit. All three bars and assemblies;
- remove the steering linkages;
- remove the steering column nut;
- remove the battery (the tray has a hole that allows observation of the pulley(s);
- remove the pulley guards on pretty much all pulleys;
- remove springs (three I think);
- disconnect additional linkages associated with part 140;
- lift the steering column (needs to be backhammered out, Don't bang on threaded end. Mine mushroomed and not sure how to get nut on...I guess file or retap);
- disconnect engine wire leading to drive pulley assembly in front of tractor;
- remove and replace 3 pulleys (make note of how the washers were used...mine was in error from the factory and/or dealer which accounted for the squelching noise from day one. The pulleys were utterly destroyed within 60 hours. One was 40% gone);
-work from front to back in installing the belt. You will see exactly why Greenville Jay's post doesn't come close to explaining all the work. Put the new belt on as you take off the old one...it will be obvious;
-in order to get the belt easily around the front three pulleys, don't install the frame rail pulley toward the back (I went back side first and had to redo); and
- in transparency, this is where I stopped. But I do not expect any issues from here on out. This is an all day job for a self-doer. Plan for two if you start in the afternoon

There is no need to remove sheet metal, electronics, dash, or engine, But the job is absolutely ridiculous and the Kubota dealers in Brookfieid and Cobb (Wisconsin) were absolutely no help and admitted they rarely if ever sell these machines. They google searched! We own a larger Kubota for farm duties. It is loud (the cabin noise is literally ear splitting compared to the New Holland) and eats batteries but otherwise nice. But after calling Kubota and running into every dead end, uncaring dealers and support, then reading bad internet advice, I will never purchase another Kubota equipment. No accountability from Team Orange. Moving to Team Green or Team Blue. The T2290 should have been recalled and put out of its misery. The unit is well made (especially good materials) but its a terrible machine to own and repair. The icing was when one dealer asked "Why didn't you buy another Conquest" Ummm, your salesman sold me......
 
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lugbolt

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ZG127S-54
Oct 15, 2015
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1,897
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they're not fun to put a belt on. I've done a few of them when I did dealer work. Certainly not impossible, but I didn't like doing them.

Engineers don't care if people can fix them or not. Their job is to make it as inexpensive as possible, as durable as possible given the amount of money that they are going to sell them at, make them competitive, and still turn a profit on them. Nowhere in their description does it say "it needs to be easy to work on". Unfortunate and that's always a big argument between techs and engineers.

As far as "bad dealers", it happens in all brands of all equipment. I can speak for the dealer I was at, when I say that everyone has good days and bad days. The last couple years I was there were filled with more bad than good, and it was way too often that I found myself talking to customers in a manner which wasn't as professional as the conversation needed to be because of so many things, a boss who was overly controlling, customers who were mad already and passed on to us by salespeople because salespeople did their job (sales) and that's the end of it (as directed by the overly-controlling boss....) and by time they got to the store after trying to call the dealer 4 or 5 times (automated answering....) they're ticked, then sales ticks em off even more, by time they get to "me" the shop guy, they're about ready to ring someone's neck. That happens a few times and people start dreading going to work. For me it took about a year of that. The second year I was mostly a robot. Go to work, take whatever chewing that was coming my way (and it usually amounted to nothing), blow it off, finish my work and go home. Repeat 5x a week. The previous 26 years was better in that the boss was also a leader. If we had mad customers, he'd step in and diffuse the situation (most of the time). Sometimes he'd let me deal with them, as a way to teach us how. For that I'm grateful. VERY good boss, and I enjoyed working for him-and the work that I put out to help customers showed.

studies showed that 86% of customers said that the service experience was a determining factor in whether they chose to do business at the dealership. That's huge. So for 26 or so years I busted my tail end as a shop maggott to help people and meet/exceed their needs. When a dealer representative is proud to work for the company, it shows in how he or she treats the customers who choose to spend their hard-earned money. And on pay? Everyone thinks that the more you pay people the better the help is. Studies show that to be somewhat true, but I can also say that pay by itself does not necessarily do the work, it's often the difference in pay between employees at the same company and WHY those higher up get paid more. In the case of that dealer, the day the new company came in, they restructured the salary schedule such that shop guys didn't get a raise in the 2 years I was with em, but sales got a HUGE raise. I was making $48k through that 2 years. At beginning, the head sales guy was at $57k, when I left the head sales guy did over $240k, and had less responsibility, less work to do, and a nice cozy office to work in. Meanwhile the dealer was forced to start taking on construction & ag equipment so us techs were forced to train more, 3 to 4 times a year typically (no commission for training so that's a loss), Working in the cold, and worse yet the heat because there was no a/c. Working out in that stuff, under tractors that are filled with cow/horse/pig poo, RTV's that have needles laying everywhere (yes I've been stuck a couple times...through gloves once), construction equipment that will KILL you instantly (one of the dealers in that little chain had a skid steer bucket fall off mid air, fell and killed two techs), mowers covered in clippings that make you break out and/or get very sick at times (have had to spend a week in the hospital over a allergy that came from a mower, don't know what it was), for $48k salary. I proudly did my best and had a boss for the last 2 years that couldn't care less about how much effort the shop guys put in, but cared a lot about how much stuff the sales guys could sell. That's a toxic workplace and I got out when I had opportunity. And that's a major reason service guys don't get all that excited anymore. The pay generally sucks and the conditions are even worse. Sad part is, there aren't many people qualified to do it and when someone comes in who is, they want to pay 'em barely over minimum wage and treat them like dirt. All it takes is a heartfelt "thank you" once in a while.

in 2014 I think it was, the old (original) boss/owner handed out christmas bonuses. THey always come in a cheap little card but nobody ever opens the card, they get the money out and run to the beer store or whatever. I noticed mine had some writing in it and I read it. It was a heartfelt thank you, basically said "thanks for all you do for this business". The money was insignificant, it wasn't much, but what was written by the boss meant a whole lot more than $500. That's all it takes sometimes.

Customers never see that stuff, but they certainly see the effects of it. Kubota also shares some responsibility too and "our" (their) division service rep understood this but when a company gets "that" big (Kubota) the changes that need to be made take seemingly forever to accomplish-which is worse now than it was before I got out.

so yes, we are all different, and we don't always work for a great boss/company, and that ofen shows in how we deal with others. we ain't perfect. If we were, we'd probably choose a different way of life...
 

Cowboy Joe

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Equipment
T2290
May 29, 2024
2
0
1
Wisconsin
they're not fun to put a belt on. I've done a few of them when I did dealer work. Certainly not impossible, but I didn't like doing them.

Engineers don't care if people can fix them or not. Their job is to make it as inexpensive as possible, as durable as possible given the amount of money that they are going to sell them at, make them competitive, and still turn a profit on them. Nowhere in their description does it say "it needs to be easy to work on". Unfortunate and that's always a big argument between techs and engineers.

As far as "bad dealers", it happens in all brands of all equipment. I can speak for the dealer I was at, when I say that everyone has good days and bad days. The last couple years I was there were filled with more bad than good, and it was way too often that I found myself talking to customers in a manner which wasn't as professional as the conversation needed to be because of so many things, a boss who was overly controlling, customers who were mad already and passed on to us by salespeople because salespeople did their job (sales) and that's the end of it (as directed by the overly-controlling boss....) and by time they got to the store after trying to call the dealer 4 or 5 times (automated answering....) they're ticked, then sales ticks em off even more, by time they get to "me" the shop guy, they're about ready to ring someone's neck. That happens a few times and people start dreading going to work. For me it took about a year of that. The second year I was mostly a robot. Go to work, take whatever chewing that was coming my way (and it usually amounted to nothing), blow it off, finish my work and go home. Repeat 5x a week. The previous 26 years was better in that the boss was also a leader. If we had mad customers, he'd step in and diffuse the situation (most of the time). Sometimes he'd let me deal with them, as a way to teach us how. For that I'm grateful. VERY good boss, and I enjoyed working for him-and the work that I put out to help customers showed.

studies showed that 86% of customers said that the service experience was a determining factor in whether they chose to do business at the dealership. That's huge. So for 26 or so years I busted my tail end as a shop maggott to help people and meet/exceed their needs. When a dealer representative is proud to work for the company, it shows in how he or she treats the customers who choose to spend their hard-earned money. And on pay? Everyone thinks that the more you pay people the better the help is. Studies show that to be somewhat true, but I can also say that pay by itself does not necessarily do the work, it's often the difference in pay between employees at the same company and WHY those higher up get paid more. In the case of that dealer, the day the new company came in, they restructured the salary schedule such that shop guys didn't get a raise in the 2 years I was with em, but sales got a HUGE raise. I was making $48k through that 2 years. At beginning, the head sales guy was at $57k, when I left the head sales guy did over $240k, and had less responsibility, less work to do, and a nice cozy office to work in. Meanwhile the dealer was forced to start taking on construction & ag equipment so us techs were forced to train more, 3 to 4 times a year typically (no commission for training so that's a loss), Working in the cold, and worse yet the heat because there was no a/c. Working out in that stuff, under tractors that are filled with cow/horse/pig poo, RTV's that have needles laying everywhere (yes I've been stuck a couple times...through gloves once), construction equipment that will KILL you instantly (one of the dealers in that little chain had a skid steer bucket fall off mid air, fell and killed two techs), mowers covered in clippings that make you break out and/or get very sick at times (have had to spend a week in the hospital over a allergy that came from a mower, don't know what it was), for $48k salary. I proudly did my best and had a boss for the last 2 years that couldn't care less about how much effort the shop guys put in, but cared a lot about how much stuff the sales guys could sell. That's a toxic workplace and I got out when I had opportunity. And that's a major reason service guys don't get all that excited anymore. The pay generally sucks and the conditions are even worse. Sad part is, there aren't many people qualified to do it and when someone comes in who is, they want to pay 'em barely over minimum wage and treat them like dirt. All it takes is a heartfelt "thank you" once in a while.

in 2014 I think it was, the old (original) boss/owner handed out christmas bonuses. THey always come in a cheap little card but nobody ever opens the card, they get the money out and run to the beer store or whatever. I noticed mine had some writing in it and I read it. It was a heartfelt thank you, basically said "thanks for all you do for this business". The money was insignificant, it wasn't much, but what was written by the boss meant a whole lot more than $500. That's all it takes sometimes.

Customers never see that stuff, but they certainly see the effects of it. Kubota also shares some responsibility too and "our" (their) division service rep understood this but when a company gets "that" big (Kubota) the changes that need to be made take seemingly forever to accomplish-which is worse now than it was before I got out.

so yes, we are all different, and we don't always work for a great boss/company, and that ofen shows in how we deal with others. we ain't perfect. If we were, we'd probably choose a different way of life...
I respect this post and it tells a lot. I do think engineers are integral to creating a brand's reputation. The functionality of the design is important on many levels. A drive belt that notoriously fails at 60 hours or so and cannot be replaced without significant effort is poor engineering on every level. I've restored and fixed enough cars, tractors, trucks, etc. to know my way around a garage. Chances are, if it sucks for me, it sucks for a tech guy too. And he is the one either endorsing or complaining about a product. The Kubota guys weren't rude and neither was I. They just didn't care that much. One dealer didn't bother to call me back at all after he was planning to "discuss with his rep." Sure you will...

More and more I think about buying used stuff and getting what I can out of it. Some of the older stuff seems better anyway. My 1945 Ford 2N worked this past weekend. Neither of my Kubotas did.
 

Mustang68

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T2290KW
Oct 11, 2024
1
0
1
Clinton Co. Pa
Hi guys! Just found this forum while googling for answers. I have a '22 T2290KW lawn tractor with poor power on hills. Rear wheels "chatter" while going up steep hills like 15% grades but has been worsening. Reached up under and belt felt really loose. Removed cover and found this.

My question is should belt be under that guide and if so how do I get it there? Just remove the guide, then reinstall? Was this my power problem?
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