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[North Idaho Wolfman]

My plates are not undersized they are as large or larger than spec called for.
And calling them chipboard plates just proves you have no clue what your talking about.

North Idaho does not have structural building codes, but still my home meets or exceeds building codes in every aspect.
You do not need " Stamped/approved truss plates meet nationwide codes."
You need stamped and approved truss plans to meet nationwide codes.

Arc fault breakers are fine and dandy if you have a properly wired home.
They do not work well on old wiring that already has issues, or on a home that has poor wiring or panels.

 

[BAP]

In a North Idaho snow load environment, those "trusses" are a very bad idea!
Design may(?) be OK, but connectors are UNSAFE!
Perhaps..... OK in Tucson?

Don’t get your pantys in a wad Fried. We built many pole barns and much of the time we built our own trusses. All of those barns are over 25 years old and some are approaching 60, and that’s in a heavy snow load area of upper New England. You just have to be smarter than the wood you use and know how to build them. It’s not rocket science.

 

[GreensvilleJay]

I know....arc faults do not play nice with fridges or laser printers or the OTR microwave.....

 

[Torinodan]

Worked like a charm!

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What's wrapped around your front tires? Was it to keep from scuffing the concrete or chewing up grass in tight turns? BTW, nice counter weight.

 

[fried1765]

My plates are not undersized they are as large or larger than spec called for.
And calling them chipboard plates just proves you have no clue what your talking about.

North Idaho does not have structural building codes, but still my home meets or exceeds building codes in every aspect.
You do not need " Stamped/approved truss plates meet nationwide codes."
You need stamped and approved truss plans to meet nationwide codes.

Arc fault breakers are fine and dandy if you have a properly wired home.
They do not work well on old wiring that already has issues, or on a home that has poor wiring or panels.

 

[GreensvilleJay]

Maybe little 'booties' to keep front tire tracks OFF the concrete ?

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

What's wrapped around your front tires? Was it to keep from scuffing the concrete or chewing up grass in tight turns? BTW, nice counter weight.

Yes I made a quick pair of scuff resistant tires with a roll of duct tape.
I didn't want to have the house and garage floors covered in 100's of tire tracks.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

One thing to note:
There was a huge amount of the first versions of arc fault breakers that false tripped on everything.
And that really soured the user on them.
I dealt with the same kinds of issues with GFI's way back when.

All tech tends to have "first version issues"

Idaho electrical code has us only using Arc Faults in sleeping rooms or and circuit used in sleeping room.
Well that got a little tricky as I have multiple circuits interior and exterior that needed protection.

 

[Henro]

One thing to note:
There was a huge amount of the first versions of arc fault breakers that false tripped on everything.
And that really soured the user on them.
I dealt with the same kinds of issues with GFI's way back when.

All tech tends to have "first version issues"

Idaho electrical code has us only using Arc Faults in sleeping rooms or and circuit used in sleeping room.
Well that got a little tricky as I have multiple circuits interior and exterior that needed protection.

I have great difficulty understanding how an arc fault breaker that feeds the bedroom helps protect a person from a fire that starts in another part of the house that doesn’t have arc fault breaker protection.

I think the authorities that make the decisions would probably save more lives if they mandated multiple smoke detectors throughout the house, all of which are interconnected wirelessly so if one activates they all activate. My battery operated smoke detectors function like that.

GFCI protection is better than sliced bread. It actually has a great possibility of saving someone’s life. I’m 100% in favor of GFCI. Even accepting they do trip randomly sometimes.

Wolfman, did you measure the thickness of those plates you put on the side of your trusses that fried1765 has been questioning? Perhaps there is a weakness in your defense! ROFLMAO….

 

[DustyRusty]

I have great difficulty understanding how an arc fault breaker that feeds the bedroom helps protect a person from a fire that starts in another part of the house that doesn’t have arc fault breaker protection.

I think the authorities that make the decisions would probably save more lives if they mandated multiple smoke detectors throughout the house, all of which are interconnected wirelessly so if one activates they all activate. My battery operated smoke detectors function like that.

GFCI protection is better than sliced bread. It actually has a great possibility of saving someone’s life. I’m 100% in favor of GFCI. Even accepting they do trip randomly sometimes.

Wolfman, did you measure the thickness of those plates you put on the side of your trusses that fried1765 has been questioning? Perhaps there is a weakness in your defense! ROFLMAO….

Henro, the beer is interfering with your thought process. Smoke detectors as you described have been mandated for decades in the building codes across the USA.
It isn't the thickness of the plates that Fried was questioning, it was the use of OSB in place of thick plywood. It is all in the engineering of the trusses. The art of truss building goes back decades and what was once thought to be correct has been questioned when it has failed. I am not going to get into the weeds on this discussion.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

I have great difficulty understanding how an arc fault breaker that feeds the bedroom helps protect a person from a fire that starts in another part of the house that doesn’t have arc fault breaker protection.

I think the authorities that make the decisions would probably save more lives if they mandated multiple smoke detectors throughout the house, all of which are interconnected wirelessly so if one activates they all activate. My battery operated smoke detectors function like that.

GFCI protection is better than sliced bread. It actually has a great possibility of saving someone’s life. I’m 100% in favor of GFCI. Even accepting they do trip randomly sometimes.

Wolfman, did you measure the thickness of those plates you put on the side of your trusses that fried1765 has been questioning? Perhaps there is a weakness in your defense! ROFLMAO….

I can't say I don't disagree with your thinking that all rooms / circuits should be protected.
But Idaho state doesn't think so, and that's who I have to answer to.

Now some real insight to our home build, all of the walls are insulated with fire proof insulation, and all of the penetrations are fire foamed.
Any and all outlets, light switch or electrical boxes and speaker boxes is fire foam sealed.
All of the attic is 24" of fire proof insulation.
The exterior is Cement board siding or will be, don't have it all done yet.
The roof is steel for weather and fire protection.
Every room besides the bathrooms have smoke or smoke and carbon monoxide detectors that are battery back up and inter connected.
The attic and garage have heat sensors that are tied into the smoke circuit too.
There is very little combustible materials used.

We live in the wood/ trees with thousands and thousands of acres all around us of potential wildfire, so we went above and beyond.

I wanted a sprinkler system but the parts for the system alone where more than we could afford.
And to our shock, would have raised or insurance rates because of the potential damage they can cause.