B7200 HSTD

[Boothdoc]

Good day folks;
So my tractor has basically stopped wanting to go forward and barely goes reverse. It has plenty of fluid and the hydraulic lift 3point goes up and down and so does my bucket.
I am thinking it is the transmission. It seems like the “clutch” is gone.
Thoughts????

 

[TheOldHokie]

I am thinking it is the transmission. It seems like the “clutch” is gone.
Thoughts????

The tractor does in fact have a clutch. Have you looked at it or tried to adjust it?

Dan

 

[Boothdoc]

The tractor does in fact have a clutch. Have you looked at it or tried to adjust it?

Dan

No I have not tried to adjust it at all. I just got a manual and I need to research this. It does seem the clutch is the issue. I just don’t know how the HST works and if it still had clutch plate

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Pull this cover:

Then you will see the propeller shaft
Run it and try and move around, if it's not turning or turning very slow, then it's 100% a bad clutch:
Replace the pilot bushing clutch disk, pressure plate and throw-out bearing while your in there.

 

[TheOldHokie]

No I have not tried to adjust it at all. I just got a manual and I need to research this. It does seem the clutch is the issue. I just don’t know how the HST works and if it still had clutch plate

Engine to transmission is just like a geared machine. The engine drives the HST transmission via a very conventional flywheel, clutch, and pressure plate.

Dan

 

[jaxs]

Pull this cover: View attachment 123172 Then you will see the propeller shaftRun it and try and move around, if it's not turning or turning very slow, then it's 100% a bad clutch:Replace the pilot bushing clutch disk, pressure plate and throw-out bearing while your in there.

I must speak up about this. "Run it and try moving around" implies that one should grab shaft with hands while tractor is running.Don't do it! You could easily loose an arm or be killed. In the interest of your health and well being I suggest wheels blocked and engine not be running anytime body parts are near this or other rotating shafts. The below was recently posted as a sticky and I see this as a classic case of "You might be blowing smoke without even knowing it " so please don't shoot the messenger.
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Sometimes you've got to be a detective to give great info.

Look at where they are, every region / country can have different tractors ( yes they can be the same letters and numbers and be different) that we are used to seeing or hearing about.

Kubota has gotten into the bad habit of repeating numbers witch gets real confusing.

L XX01 and LXX02 used to only be older grey market tractors.
L2500 can be real old or newer old.
B7001 can be a B7001 or a B7100
A BX23 has 2 versions (BX23D and BX23S) that are completely different.
Kubota EU now has L1 units, L1's were always old Grey market tractors.

There are thousands of various oddities.

While there are some tractors that are the same across different models most are not.
One example, Telling someone that well a L2500 is close to L2501 so they should have the same wiring simply is not even close to true, there is a 20 year difference between the them.

I know we all try the best to help everyone we can, but don't discount the possibility you might be blowing smoke without even knowing it.

Some days you're being chased by the wolves,
Some days you're running with the pack!

 

[Hkb82]

He never said move it around by hand lol. I understood it as try driving it not try and grab a handful. Not a bad reminder to folks though. Guess ya never know what someone will do these days. Maybe time to bring back the triangle block fits in the triangle hole toy again.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

I must speak up about this. "Run it and try moving around" implies that one should grab shaft with hands while tractor is running.Don't do it!

If your going to quote me do it properly and don't reword it to suit your agenda!

Then you will see the propeller shaft
Run it and try and move around, if it's not turning or turning very slow, then it's 100% a bad clutch:
Replace the pilot bushing clutch disk, pressure plate and throw-out bearing while your in there.

I'm pretty sure that anyone with half a brain could tell I meant move the TRACTOR around!

But let me spell it out for the cheap seats.

Remove the cover
Then you will see the propeller shaft
DON'T TOUCH IT, don't think about touching it, don't talk about touching it, don't get some else to touch it.
Bonus points for the one who can tell me the movie and who said the above quote.
Run it and try and move THE TRACTOR around, if the propeller shaft (that your not touching) is not turning or turning very slow, then it's 100% a bad clutch:
Replace the pilot bushing clutch disk, pressure plate and throw-out bearing while your in there.

Just to be clear, and to keep Jaxs happy and satisfied that he got one on me. DO NOT TOUCH THE PROPELLER SHAFT, Because Jaxs is afraid of you ripping your arm off.

And yes I'm a little offended at Jaxs calling me out again!
And yes I can bold things and yell too!

 

[Hkb82]

Nobody will read it and think let’s try moving it by hand with it running.

Walk the line Jerry Lee Lewis
Love me some apples

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Nobody will read it and think let’s try moving it by hand with it running.

Walk the line Jerry Lee Lewis
Love me some apples

BONUS POINTS to YOU!

 

[jaxs]

I don't believe warning stickers on tractors mean some owners have half brains so therefore need warning. Warning to not touch shaft in question also doesn't mean only people with half brains might touch it. Lighten up,there's no call for taking a warning as an insult to anyone's intelligence.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

I don't believe warning stickers on tractors mean some owners have half brains so therefore need warning. Warning to not touch shaft in question also doesn't mean only people with half brains might touch it. Lighten up,there's no call for taking a warning as an insult to anyone's intelligence.

Me lighten up, Nope not a chance.
WARNING: Ticking off the moderator of a forum is not the smartest thing to do!

 

[85Hokie]

I must speak up about this. "Run it and try moving around" implies that one should grab shaft with hands while tractor is running.Don't do it!

Dude - not sure what you have been drinking or smoking - but AT NO TIME did ANYONE mention that someone should GRAB (the word you used) the SPINNING or non SPINNING shaft.

Your understanding of the printed vernacular lacking a bit to be understood!

 

[Boothdoc]

Well, some of this is rather interesting. I didn’t expect Orange tractors Talks to be so “lively”. Lmao.
Thanks for the explanations of how the system works because I never thought of it as a regular clutch system and Also a hydrostatic drive system.