GreensvilleJay
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If accurate not real surprising. The pay in advance and wait extended times has been shouting "Charles Ponzi school of business" to anyone that cared to listenI was an employee there for several years, and I want to explain what's really happened to EA in hopes or ending the widespread speculation on this forum. The owner was not paying bills, including carrier/shipping debt (175k to FedEx alone several months ago), third party vendors, taxes, etc. In some cases a customer would request a refund because the wait was longer than initially projected, but our manager would tell us "we really don't have enough in the account for a refund currently". While EA manufactures quality attachments, Ted/Nate were absolutely using money from new orders to cover material costs for older orders. A previous post mentioned the "rob Peter to pay Paul" business strategy, and that is absolutely what was taking place at EA. In addition, some of that money was wasted on non-work related projects like a new Tesla and dock parties at the glass house. We had multiple welders spend close to a year at his glass house on the lake, doing renovations and updates instead. We suggested advising a more accurate lead time (5-6 months, instead of 3-4 months which is what we were telling folks), and Ted's response was "they won't buy if the lead time is too long!". Ted's excessive and wasteful spending is the biggest contributor to EA's downfall. If you have an order in, get your money back if you still can. EA was little more than a glorified Ponzi scheme at the end of its lifetime.
*this was also posted on Tractorbynet, on a now locked forum*
Most definitely.If accurate not real surprising. The pay in advance and wait extended times has been shouting "Charles Ponzi school of business" to anyone that cared to listen
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Anyone can post anything and I'd need to see a lot more evidence than an anonymous forum post before I took any of this to be fact. Maybe it's accurate, maybe it's not, but the bar must be pretty low for anyone commenting on this as though it's proven and entered into the formal record.I was an employee there for several years, and I want to explain what's really happened to EA in hopes or ending the widespread speculation on this forum. The owner was not paying bills, including carrier/shipping debt (175k to FedEx alone several months ago), third party vendors, taxes, etc. In some cases a customer would request a refund because the wait was longer than initially projected, but our manager would tell us "we really don't have enough in the account for a refund currently". While EA manufactures quality attachments, Ted/Nate were absolutely using money from new orders to cover material costs for older orders. A previous post mentioned the "rob Peter to pay Paul" business strategy, and that is absolutely what was taking place at EA. In addition, some of that money was wasted on non-work related projects like a new Tesla and dock parties at the glass house. We had multiple welders spend close to a year at his glass house on the lake, doing renovations and updates instead. We suggested advising a more accurate lead time (5-6 months, instead of 3-4 months which is what we were telling folks), and Ted's response was "they won't buy if the lead time is too long!". Ted's excessive and wasteful spending is the biggest contributor to EA's downfall. If you have an order in, get your money back if you still can. EA was little more than a glorified Ponzi scheme at the end of its lifetime.
*this was also posted on Tractorbynet, on a now locked forum*
That's a fair point, people should be cautious and skeptical of believing what you read from an anonymous stranger on the internet. However, everything I've stated is 100% factual. Do some independent research and you will likely find evidence corroborating my post. My intention was not to engage in rumor-mongering but rather shed light on the subject for all those reliant on speculation.Anyone can post anything and I'd need to see a lot more evidence than an anonymous forum post before I took any of this to be fact. Maybe it's accurate, maybe it's not, but the bar must be pretty low for anyone commenting on this as though it's proven and entered into the formal record.
Again, without providing any evidence for anything you've said, you're just another new member who could have an agenda. A redacted pay stub would do it. That shouldn't be hard to share.However, everything I've stated is 100% factual.
MY sentiments exactly. If you need a paystub to believe me, I will respectfully decline. Whether you choose to believe what I have posted is your decision, I support your right to choose.As we read the posts common sense comes into play too...
We need to all apply what common sense we may have and see what conclusions we reach at this point.
Copy of a pay stub??? Who would be stupid enough to post that on the internet? LOL
Amen to that. Probably true, no less....With the seemingly endless decline of US manufacturing it is always sad to see a company that had potential be mismanged out of existence.
You provide no more evidence of anything on TractorByNet. In fact, a member asked you why you hadn't informed members earlier of what you claimed to know long before anyone else. Your answer was that you didn't know that the forum existed. So you build tractor attachments and EA was paying vendor on TBN but you didn't know the forum existed?MY sentiments exactly. If you need a paystub to believe me, I will respectfully decline. Whether you choose to believe what I have posted is your decision, I support your right to choose.
Really. Ever heard of redaction? If I were asked to prove employment at a company I had claimed to work at, I'd have no problem posting a redacted pay stub.Copy of a pay stub??? Who would be stupid enough to post that on the internet? LOL
I worked at EA, however I have never owned or been on a tractor of any kind, so that would explain why I was unaware of this tractor-related forum. EA being a payed sponsor of TBN is also news to me, as I had never been on a tractor-related forum of any kind until I began searching Everything Attachments for discussion of the recent shutdown, which brought me to orangetractortalks/TBN. You are more than welcome to disregard what I have said if you need a redacted pay stub or further proof. I have no interest in satisfying your request for proof. Soon enough, what I have claimed will be verified by either the paper, local news, or other media outlet. Instead of waiting for proof that I will not provide, keep an eye on Conover/Hickory local news. I only posted to try to prevent others from losing money needlessly.You provide no more evidence of anything on TractorByNet. In fact, a member asked you why you hadn't informed members earlier of what you claimed to know long before anyone else. Your answer was that you didn't know that the forum existed. So you build tractor attachments and EA was paying vendor on TBN but you didn't know the forum existed?
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So did you only join forum today to share that information?I worked at EA, however I have never owned or been on a tractor of any kind, so that would explain why I was unaware of this tractor-related forum. EA being a payed sponsor of TBN is also news to me, as I had never been on a tractor-related forum of any kind until I began searching Everything Attachments for discussion of the recent shutdown, which brought me to orangetractortalks/TBN. You are more than welcome to disregard what I have said if you need a redacted pay stub or further proof. I have no interest in satisfying your request for proof. Soon enough, what I have claimed will be verified by either the paper, local news, or other media outlet. Instead of waiting for proof that I will not provide, keep an eye on Conover/Hickory local news. I only posted to try to prevent others from losing money needlessly.
That is correct.So did you only join today to share that information?