Gear oil that meets AGMA 5EP for blower

[wacnstac]

I'm having trouble finding the gear oil that meets the AGMA 5EP - SAE 80W90 rating as specified in the manual for my Kubota blower attachment. I bought the thing used, it was sitting outside and I want to change all fluids and do all maintenance on it.

Any tips on where to find this gear oil or an equivalent?

 

[100 td]

Does it say

Check oil level. If needed, add AGMA 5EP
extreme pressure oil, SAE 80W90 gear oil or
equivalent.
I very much doubt a snow blower gearbox requires any "special" oil. I expect any 80/90, or whatever you have in the shed will do. AGMA 5EP is an ISO 220 weight oil, similar to a 90 gear oil, it probably leaks out less!
https://cenex.com/~/media/cenex/files/lubricants/agma%20ep/agma-ep_pds-e5-02.ashx
http://www.doolittleoil.com/faq/viscosity-sae-iso-or-agma

 

[wacnstac]

Manual says to drain and replace the gear oil every year. Not knowing the history of this blower, I want to drain and replace.

 

[mattwithcats]

NAPA has 5 gallon pail...

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/VCA70016

 

[wacnstac]

What about this? Seems like it is the closest I can find in quart size:

https://www.gamut.com/p/mobil-industrial-gear-oil-220-iso-grade-synthetic-5-agma-grade-NDg1NzE4

 

[wacnstac]

Actually this might be exactly right:

https://www.usabluebook.com/p-280813-chevronreg-meropareg-synthetic-blower-lubricant-1-quart.aspx

 

[100 td]

While it fits the bill, if you use 80/90 gear oil for anything else, use that, one less different oil to stock. YMMV

 

[corey123]

Old thread, new member. Just wondering if anyone has found this oil in a smaller quantity than 5 gallons? I've got a GR2846A snowblower.

 

[GeoHorn]

Tractor Supply sells 80W90 gear oil in quarts, gallons, and 5-gals.

Personally, I buy a 5-gal pail… then pour it into a new, plastic, pump-up garden sprayer….and use that (minus the nozzle-tip) to install the amount needed into whatever machine needs it. Makes it very easy to determine the correct amount also due to the sprayer having the sides of the tank calibrated in qts.

(I have a number of machines that use gear oil.)

 

[corey123]

Hey thanks for answering. I looked at TSC and couldn't find anything with the AGMA 5EP rating though. Seems everywhere has 80w90, but I can't find what Kubota requires.

 

[TheOldHokie]

Hey thanks for answering. I looked at TSC and couldn't find anything with the AGMA 5EP rating though. Seems everywhere has 80w90, but I can't find what Kubota requires.

SEP is an AGMA acronym for Synthetic Extreme Pressure gear oil.

Its the same thing as a synthetic SAE service category GL4 or GL5 gear oil.

Any synthetic SAE 75W90 GL5 gear oil matches that Kubota specification. The key word here is synthetic.

Dan

 

[DustyRusty]

I would prefer to err on the side of caution and only use a GL4 gear oil. Some GL5 gear oils will attack brass gears, and that gearbox is made with all brass gears. If you are going to be doing this outside, then you will need a lot of heat to get the old oil out and warm the new oil to get it to flow into the gearbox. To remove the Allen screws, you might have to heat them enough to break the bond of the Loctite that the manufacturer uses when they are new. Also, buy a good quality Alen wrench that isn't going to mess up the Allen screws. This has been discussed many times on these forums in the past.

BX2755HD gear oil fill plug is seized. 11mm bolt, rusted solid. Used blower I dont think the gear oil was ever serviced

BX2755HD

www.orangetractortalks.com

 

[TheOldHokie]

I would prefer to err on the side of caution and only use a GL4 gear oil. Some GL5 gear oils will attack brass gears, and that gearbox is made with all brass gears. If you are going to be doing this outside, then you will need a lot of heat to get the old oil out and warm the new oil to get it to flow into the gearbox. To remove the Allen screws, you might have to heat them enough to break the bond of the Loctite that the manufacturer uses when they are new. Also, buy a good quality Alen wrench that isn't going to mess up the Allen screws. This has been discussed many times on these forums in the past.

BX2755HD gear oil fill plug is seized. 11mm bolt, rusted solid. Used blower I dont think the gear oil was ever serviced

BX2755HD

www.orangetractortalks.com

You are parroting old internet myths and fear mongering.

The API test for yellow metal corrosion is ASTM D130 which rates oils in four bands of four levels each starting at 1A for least corrosive and ending at 4D for most corrosive.

Modern GL5 formulations use buffered sulfur compounds and are almost all 1A or 1B in that test. They are in essence GL4 (2B or lower) compatible. In fact most of them can even be used in a synchronized manual transmission where there might actually be a concern with the high surface temperatures that the brass synchronizer rings experience. Nothing in that snowblower gearbox is even close.

Dan

 

[tthorkil]

Old thread, new member. Just wondering if anyone has found this oil in a smaller quantity than 5 gallons? I've got a GR2846A snowblower.

I ordered 2 gallons from the company listed below on 11/24/2020 as I had no luck finding any close or online order for less than 5 gallons. I found them through Lucas oil conversations. Unfortunately for me the cost of shipping was almost as much as the oil,
Mid-South Bearing, LLC.
PO Box 17246
Jonesboro, AR 72403 (I just called them and they no longer carry 1 Gallon 12/18/2023)
Phone: 870-932-6803
Fax: 870-520-6421

LUCAS OIL Part# 10960
ISO 220 GEAR OIL - 1 GALLON $15.50

Try: https://www.evolubesupply.com/industrial-gear-oil-220-1-gal-3-79-liter-jug-10960/

 

[TheOldHokie]

I ordered 2 gallons from the company listed below on 11/24/2020 as I had no luck finding any close or online order for less than 5 gallons. I found them through Lucas oil conversations. Unfortunately for me the cost of shipping was almost as much as the oil,
Mid-South Bearing, LLC.
PO Box 17246
Jonesboro, AR 72403
Phone: 870-932-6803
Fax: 870-520-6421

LUC 10960
ISO 220 GEAR OIL - 1 GALLON 15.50

An ISO 220 oil is way heavier than SAE 90. Where did that number come from?

Dan

 

[tthorkil]

An ISO 220 oil is way heavier than SAE 90. Where did that number come from?

Dan

A search for AGMA 5EP as recommended by Kubota ; https://www.google.com/search?q=agm...1ODgzajBqMTWoAgCwAgA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

[corey123]

Thank you for the replies. I was able to find this on another forum and called to verify. It's definitely spendy, but I have a gallon being shipped out for $89.24 and should last me a few years. Thank you again

McMaster-Carr

McMaster-Carr is the complete source for your plant with over 595,000 products. 98% of products ordered ship from stock and deliver same or next day.

www.mcmaster.com

 

[GeoHorn]

Thank you for the replies. I was able to find this on another forum and called to verify. It's definitely spendy, but I have a gallon being shipped out for $89.24 and should last me a few years. Thank you again

McMaster-Carr

McMaster-Carr is the complete source for your plant with over 595,000 products. 98% of products ordered ship from stock and deliver same or next day.

www.mcmaster.com

OMG….!! CANCEL THAT! WWWAAAAYY too expensive. Get down to your local NAPA or TSC or WALMART even…and buy ordinary 80W90 gear old.

 

[tthorkil]

OMG….!! CANCEL THAT! WWWAAAAYY too expensive. Get down to your local NAPA or TSC or WALMART even…and buy ordinary 80W90 gear old.

I called Mid-South Bearing, LLC. and they indicated that Lucas Oil no longer will supply them wwith the 1 gallon size.
I found - but not verified https://www.evolubesupply.com/industrial-gear-oil-220-1-gal-3-79-liter-jug-10960/
$24.53 gal as of 12/18/2023.

 

[corey123]

OMG….!! CANCEL THAT! WWWAAAAYY too expensive. Get down to your local NAPA or TSC or WALMART even…and buy ordinary 80W90 gear old.

It's ridiculous, no doubt. As much problems as I've had with this kubota, I figured I best follow the manual and they've shipped it apparently. Ugh