(Solved FYI Info) 2021'ish L2501 No Crank condition

[Runs With Scissors]

Let me first say that I did finally figure it out, so this post is mostly a resource to help someone out in the future.

So I pull the tractor our of the garage, so I can access my toolbox and work on the truck this Sunday.

Its starts just fine and I park it in the driveway. (luckily not in the way of my truck exit).

Well after I get done with the truck, the kids swing by for dinner, and of course my grandson wants to play on the tractor.

After dinner, they go to leave and I go to back the tractor in.

Turn the key and nothing. I have had this happen before but, usually if I wiggle the tredal pedal it fires up. Not this time though.

Of course my wife and daughter automatically say "Maybe you shouldn't let a 5 year old play on your tractor?"

To which I respond "To hell with that..... this is exactly what he should be playing on! If a little boy can break it, it probably wasn't worth a damn anyway"

I go though my mental check list

1. Did I push clutch in?.....check
2. Is the PTO in the 'disengaged?' ......check
3. is the treadle pedal centered?......check

Its cold out and I've had a few adult beverages, so I figure no good can come from a tipsy troubleshooter so I go in for the night.

 

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Yesterday before I leave for work, I try it again. Still nothing.

I get to work and pull up the schematic and start planning out my troubleshooting plan.

In my heart of hearts, I know with 99% certainty that the treadle pedal switch has given up the ghost.

I have always found it very difficult to go into a trouble shooting situation with an "open mind". I instinctively have an idea of what I think is wrong and tend to focus on that. I have to actively restrain myself and force myself to start with the basics first.

This "troubleshooting impulse instinct" has gotton me into more troubles than I can count, and cost me many, many dollars, and much wasted time. So maybe I am finally learning.

Since you have to start somewhere, I do focus on the safety switch circuit. It appears that there are only 3 safety switch's. Clutch, PTO, and Treadle pedal. (Although I KNOW in my head there will be no need to check the others because it absolutely has to be the treadle pedal....right!!!)

My plan was as follows.

1. check/meter fuse
2. Bypass Treadle pedal switch using jumper wires.
3. Bypass PTO switch
4. Bypass Clutch switch.
5. Oh sh!t!!!! Ge the rum out and well......make another plan

 

[The Evil Twin]

What is this, a multi part story? No resolution.

 

[Runs With Scissors]

Meter out fuse...Check.

Make jumper wires and Bypass Tredle pedal ......Check....turn the key and NOTHING!!!!! AgHHHHH...what the He!!

I was 99.9999999999% sure this was going to be it.

Trying not get rattled I turn my attention to the PTO micro-switch. When I touch it, I hear a "click". Then I think....Hmmm..........Turn the key and BAM, it fires right up.

Keep in mind the PTO is set to the disengaged position; However, it did not actually close the switch.

 

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What is this, a multi part story? No resolution.

Still typing...I hate giant paragraphs. ( I also avoid single spacing my lines) LOL

 

[Runs With Scissors]

The good part is that I now know how to bypass the Treadle pedal switch and have a decent working knowledge of the starting circuit, in case I ever need it in the field.

I also now keep those jumpers in my tool box...Just in case.

 

[Chanceywd]

The good part is that I now know how to bypass the Treadle pedal switch and have a decent working knowledge of the starting circuit, in case I ever need it in the field.

I also now keep those jumpers in my tool box...Just in case.

I wear hearing aids and it was getting hard to hear things again like you speak of with the switch click, no way I would have heard that. Just got new ones and I heard my wife putting the collars on the dogs to take them out 40 ft away, the high pitched noise I can't hear at all with out them. I was explaining it to the hearing people how I can hear those sounds again, like the birds outside.

So I am glad you found your way thru it and got it running. Good story to hear a grandfather letting his grandchild have some safe fun too!

Bill

 

[MountainMeadows]

In the future don't forget there is also an operator present switch under the seat.

 

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In the future don't forget there is also an operator present switch under the seat.

Yep...found that one on day one of playing with the tractor; I was trying to stand up to get a better view while inching forward....

 

[Runs With Scissors]

Good story to hear a grandfather letting his grandchild have some safe fun too!

Bill

Funny you should say that Bill.

My daughter and SIL are now saying that I have 'ruined him' forever.

Now he says he wants a "real tractor" for Christmas, not a "toy tractor"....

Paul