BX1500 HST needed asap, need to put backhoe on L295DT

[North Idaho Wolfman]

The L4510 was only a three point BH.

 

[fried1765]

Just up front your going to sink a bunch of time and money into a tractor that is really hard to work with.
It can be done but be aware that even with used parts your looking at a minimum of around $5K to get it going, and that's if you can buy all the parts cheap, and do all your own fabrication and build work.

#1: The loaders that fit these models are rare, very rare, so there is a big hurdle to get past.
They require parts to run it, like a front drive pump, and most of those parts are obsolete so it's a scratch build situation.
The subframe for just the loader will be 100% scratch build if you can't find a stock model, and I wouldn't hold my breath on being able to do that.
The tractor will have issues running a loader easily, for one because it does not have power steering.

#2 Moving on to the BH
While the model you pointed to, a BL4690B, is a model that could work for you, because for one it has a separate tank and PTO powered pump which you will need, because the tractors on board system hydraulics will not run a BH.
It is highly discouraged to run a three point BH especially on these older models because you'll break parts way to easily.
To make a proper 4 point subframe is a HUGE feat as there is not a lot of locations on that tractor to bolt to, its heavy metal and extends up to the loader subframe for the tie in.
I have a set of subframes here and they weight in the 100lb's a piece range, for a BH that would be properly sized for your tractor.
If you could get lucky and find a Bradco, or Woods fully contained (pump and hydraulics are included) BH, you'll still need to adapt a subframe to fit your tractor.

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink"!

 

[joesmith123]

The L4510 was only a three point BH.

Are you sure? It has the long frame mount, and in the manual it says it is "frame mounted"

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Are you sure? It has the long frame mount, and in the manual it says it is "frame mounted"

Nope not 100% sure, the prints for that model are not complete.
Pictures of the actual BH would help.

 

[joesmith123]

Nope not 100% sure, the prints for that model are not complete.
Pictures of the actual BH would help.

3 point backhoes definitely don’t have mounts that go all the way to the front of the tractor, this one does

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

That looks to be a home made subframe, not factory?
And it looks to be missing a bunch of needed mounting parts to mount it.

 

[joesmith123]

That looks to be a home made subframe, not factory?
And it looks to be missing a bunch of needed mounting parts to mount it.

here’s a picture of the label, it looks like it’s kubota part, factory, not home made

“bunch of needed mounting parts”

which mounting parts exactly are missing?

 

[GreensvilleJay]

missing both 'feet' though not a big deal...
missing seat again not a big deal...
missing the hydraulic spool valve assy, that IS a 'BIG" deal
missing PTO hydraulic pump.

sub frame is homemade

you can see parts at Messicks online, to give you an idea what's not there and maybe a price ?

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

here’s a picture of the label, it looks like it’s kubota part, factory, not home made

“bunch of needed mounting parts”

which mounting parts exactly are missing?

That's the label on the BH not the subframe.
I said the the subframe was home made, not the BH.

Here is a parts list for a little newer BH that has a subframe, just to give you an example of the parts for the subframe that are missing.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Greensvillejay brought up some good points!
There are some pricey parts that are missing for the BH!

If that's the BH your buying I hope your not traveling too far and not paying too much!
That's going to need some serious $$$$ to make it operational!

 

[cthomas]

That's looks like trying to build a reliable Yugo. You can do it, looking for parts worldwide, and in the end worth scrap value.

 

[joesmith123]

missing both 'feet' though not a big deal...
missing seat again not a big deal...
missing the hydraulic spool valve assy, that IS a 'BIG" deal
missing PTO hydraulic pump.

sub frame is homemade

you can see parts at Messicks online, to give you an idea what's not there and maybe a price ?

yes I go now and figure the “hydraulic spool valve assembly”

“missing PTO hydraulic pump” - is this a universal part that is easy to get?

How can you tell it’s home made?

 

[joesmith123]

That's looks like trying to build a reliable Yugo. You can do it, looking for parts worldwide, and in the end worth scrap value.

Those missing parts available if I’m not mistaken

Is the hydraulic assembly specific to this digger or can I use another one similar?

“Missing pto hydraulic pump”

can I get another one similar or is it specific to this backhoe?

Your responses are appreciated

 

[cthomas]

The homemade section is blue is the first clue and the 4 mounting points in the middle are too close together to be effective. Almost looks like the blue frame is part of a railroad transport frame that has been repurposed. I am curious how is was mounted as it looks to be a pain it the rear. It probably has a milk crate or 2 of part that are missing.

 

[fried1765]

The homemade section is blue is the first clue and the 4 mounting points in the middle are too close together to be effective. Almost looks like the blue frame is part of a railroad transport frame that has been repurposed. I am curious how is was mounted as it looks to be a pain it the rear. It probably has a milk crate or 2 of part that are missing.

"When you are up to your neck in alligators, it is difficult to remember that the original intent was to drain the swamp".

 

[joesmith123]

The homemade section is blue is the first clue and the 4 mounting points in the middle are too close together to be effective. Almost looks like the blue frame is part of a railroad transport frame that has been repurposed. I am curious how is was mounted as it looks to be a pain it the rear. It probably has a milk crate or 2 of part that are missing.

yes, I see what you mean that those blue rails are probably not factory

as far as the middle holes not being good for support, once I get home, I will look at where it mounts to exactly and take measurements

From the looks of it, does it at least look like the holes will match the holes on the tractor?
Also attached is a picture of the pto pump

 

[joesmith123]

"When you are up to your neck in alligators, it is difficult to remember that the original intent was to drain the swamp".

elaborate on what you mean exactly

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

Those missing parts available if I’m not mistaken

Is the hydraulic assembly specific to this digger or can I use another one similar?

“Missing pto hydraulic pump”

can I get another one similar or is it specific to this backhoe?

Your responses are appreciated

yes, I see what you mean that those blue rails are probably not factory

as far as the middle holes not being good for support, once I get home, I will look at where it mounts to exactly and take measurements

From the looks of it, does it at least look like the holes will match the holes on the tractor?
Also attached is a picture of the pto pump

Is he including all the mounting parts that are still on the tractor?
That will help.
Hopefully the seller has all the other parts!
The BH valve was specific to that unit, You could buy a universal setup, but that's going to take a lot of parts to get it fitted to all the lines and to get it to mount right for the levers.

 

[joesmith123]

Is he including all the mounting parts that are still on the tractor?
That will help.
Hopefully the seller has all the other parts!
The BH valve was specific to that unit, You could buy a universal setup, but that's going to take a lot of parts to get it fitted to all the lines and to get it to mount right for the levers.

Yes, the tractor that this was mounted on is also being included, meaning, some of the parts could still be on it, I’ll attach more pictures

Also seller did say that pto pump and the hydraulic spool assembly also included

pictures are of the exact tractor, 295DT, with the bucket mounted on it

 

[joesmith123]

The BH valve was specific to that unit

Im assuming you are talking about the “hydraulic spool assembly”, correct?

where exactly does this part mount? From what I can tell, this is the part that has the levers that controls the bucket. am I wrong or right?