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Rog's Kubota

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I have an L275, so it is pushing 40 years old. I have never replaced the alternator or the regulator.
I would like to put a new alternator on and maybe get a bigger one to get a little more amperage out, but mainly, I would like to get rid of the regulator.
Has anyone done this? Is there a perfect fit alternator with built-in regulator for this old beauty?
Thanks, Roger
 

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Kubota Canada only has 1 L275 to look at for parts and if it's yours, you've got a 25 amp alternator and external reg( under the dash..) The regulator is $86, alt NLA.

Does it still work ?? Seems a shame to not let it run for another 20-30-40 years .

If you 'go bigger', you'll need to upgrade the wiring size and probably modify 'functions' of them.
When you use a 'one wire' alternator,odds are you'll need a smaller pulley on it. Most require a fast 'cut in' speed, higher than tractor engines...OK for hot rods.
It should be in the 'specs' of the alternator.

Why the extra amps ? If lighting, consider LEDs,especially to replace current headlights and 4ways.
 
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just watch the LED assembly's amp draw. Some of their drivers use more amps than others. One would think that they draw little, and in part they do--but it's not as "small" as one would think. The two original fogs on my truck drew 9.2A for the pair. I pulled them off and installed one 20" double row light bar figuring the amp draw would drop way off. 8.87A. I wasn't expecting it to be that much but it does put out more light than the original incandescent fogs, hence it could be said that the light bar is "more efficient". But in electrical terms, it's not that big of a difference on it's own, from a current requirement standpoint. Run into this often at work on off-road stuff where people will put a 50" light bar on front and another one on the back. Some of them pull 30+ amps and the pair can and does overpower the little alternator. Then they show up a few weeks later "hey my battery won't stay charged". Tell em why, and then "I thought LED's don't draw much". Wellll....they do but not as much as incandescents with the same candlepower do!
 
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There are several one wire alternators that will work for it.
 
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So an alternator will only push out as many amps as it takes to raise the system to the target voltage. So if your current alternator is putting out 5amps to keep the system at ~13.0 or whatever voltage it is hitting, the new alternator would also only put out 5amps to hit the same voltage. What a larger alternator does is allow you to use more electrical power before discharging the battery, while the engine is running.

So, do you have any electrical demands you are adding to the tractor or planning to add?

Most automotive alternators have an RPM limit of around 13000rpm. Since car engines usually only spin to less than 7000, they can get away with an 'overdriven' pulley ratio of something like 0.5:1, or alt is usually spinning twice as fast as the crank. Car alternators usually can't make full output until the engine is above idle, up to ~1500-1800 rpm, which might equate to 3000 at the alternator. On a tractor since the diesel engine will only rev to ~3000rpm, you can get away with a much bigger overdrive ratio and spin the alt 3-4 times faster than the crank. But, to do so you must make the crank pulley larger, or the alternator pulley smaller. On a V-belt pulley there is a limit to how small you can go because the belt itself does like to bend shorter than a certain radius, so more than likely you would need to install a larger crank pulley ('on top of' the existing one) if you wanted to make full output from the alternator without needing to rev the diesel up near max rpm to get it.

If your existing crank pulley and the stock pulley on the alternator you get works out to be about the same as what would be on a car, you could leave it alone and just rev the engine up to ~1500+ anytime you wanted to be able to use that max output of the alternator. More rpm is better because the alternator is fan-cooled and the faster it spins the cooler it runs, at least in the lower rpm range we are talking about. Often when people want an upgraded alternator they also end up 'smoking' it because they pulled a lot of current at too low of an rpm, overheating the alt. In those cases it may have been better to just build a 'fast idle' system (a tractor will already do that just by moving throttle lever) than to upgrade the alt.

Just things to consider.
 
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doc harper

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I have an L275, so it is pushing 40 years old. I have never replaced the alternator or the regulator.
I would like to put a new alternator on and maybe get a bigger one to get a little more amperage out, but mainly, I would like to get rid of the regulator.
Has anyone done this? Is there a perfect fit alternator with built-in regulator for this old beauty?
Thanks, Roger
i put a 95 nissan pathfinder alt. on a L245. almost same size. you will need a 5/16 x 5 inch bolt on bottom. 1 inch longer belt. connector plug wire from ebay. discord belt guard. yellow wire switch, green battery with red battery
 

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There's a kit to upgrade a B2601 to an alternator. It's possible that a) it might fit or be similar, and b) might be geared correctly for tractor use.
 

doc harper

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There's a kit to upgrade a B2601 to an alternator. It's possible that a) it might fit or be similar, and b) might be geared correctly for tractor use.
i bought the alternator from salvage yard for 25.00 and electrical plug for 8.00. misc. bolts 4.00. simple hook up. the nissan pathfinder alt. has built in regulator to
 
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BruceP

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I have an L275, so it is pushing 40 years old. I have never replaced the alternator or the regulator.
Just for your awareness the Kubota L275 has a DYNAMO.... not an alternator. (Reference the online parts listings to confirm)

The main difference is that the rotating part is a permanent magnet so there are no brushes to wear out.

As you mention, a DYNAMO is extremely reliable and can last a very long time. This is because it is just some magnets spinning within some wire-coils. Also as you suggest, a DYNAMO requires a regulator to bleed-off excess voltage as heat.

Also referencing the online parts listing to see there is a "Reman Alternator" shown
Feel free to lookup the Kubota P/N= 77700-07922
 

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Just for your awareness the Kubota L275 has a DYNAMO.... not an alternator. (Reference the online parts listings to confirm)

The main difference is that the rotating part is a permanent magnet so there are no brushes to wear out.

As you mention, a DYNAMO is extremely reliable and can last a very long time. This is because it is just some magnets spinning within some wire-coils. Also as you suggest, a DYNAMO requires a regulator to bleed-off excess voltage as heat.

Also referencing the online parts listing to see there is a "Reman Alternator" shown
Feel free to lookup the Kubota P/N= 77700-07922
According to Messicks dot com that is a reman dynamo