" Firestarters" for woodstoves ?

Nicfin36

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Takes a lot of room, though. I only have an acre, so can't afford the space.

I never tried 3 years, so can't say how good it is, but I do know that 2 years is a world of difference from the usual stuff that firewood people sell.

Of course, how long you need to season depends on the local climate. Here in Virginia is a different world from the Gulf Coast of Texas, Louisiana, etc, which is a different world from the desert mountain areas of the southwest.

But wherever you are, genuinely dry wood is a different world, and most wood-burners only think they know what it is.

It is easier for me to get to 3 years seasoning. I don't go through as much being further south and my house is small.
 
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During the warmer months, we collect the thousands of pine cones on our 1 acre into plastic trash cans. Then a 5 gallon bucket of cones comes inside, with a 1 pound coffee can with diesel to leave 1 or 2 cones soaking. Want a fire? Lay the wood in the stove, put a cone in the center and hit it with a small torch.
 

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I would love to, but I don't have a machine that will lift a full tote that high. :(
Same same. I could probably do it with a 2 season old tote, but fresh split... Not a chance.
 
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Well stack one empty on top of the full one and toss wood into the empty one,,, No I havent figured out how to get it down ,, :) Really how much wood can you get into an IBC tote?
 

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Well stack one empty on top of the full one and toss wood into the empty one,,, No I havent figured out how to get it down ,, :) Really how much wood can you get into an IBC tote?
2.7 totes equals one cord.
 

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OK so a bit under a face cord,,, that works
There is no such thing as a face cord, that nonsense doesn't take into account the length of the firewood. It is just a sorry attempt at marketing. A cord is 4" x 4" x 8" neatly stacked or roughly 128 cubic foot. I say roughly because it depends on the stacking and the size of the container.
 
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There is no such thing as a face cord, that nonsense doesn't take into account the length of the firewood. It is just a sorry attempt at marketing.

Exactly right. All 50 states define a cord as a legal unit of measure, and no state defines a "face cord" or a "rick" or any of the other bogus terms used by ignorant people. Yes, I did look it up. Some states actually make it a crime to use those bogus terms when selling firewood.

Why?

Since there is no legal definition of "face cord" or "rick", either term means exactly what you want it to mean, and nothing more. You could put 3 sticks in a 5 gallon bucket and call it a face cord or a rick. Since there is no legal definition, it's impossible to prosecute fraud.

And by the way, not only is there no legal definition, there is no universally agreed on definition. I have seen this come up on several forums over the years, and every time, people who think it's a legitimate term start bickering about what it means.


As far as what a tote cage holds, I carefully stacked a cord and then tossed it into empty 300 gallon tote cages. It took 5 even totes to hold the cord. If you stacked it carefully, I think you could get it into 4 cages. I don't do that because part of my goal in using the tote cages is to reduce the handling of the wood. It comes off the splitter and gets tossed into the tote, and stays there until it's time to take it into the house. Any other moving around is done by tractor.
 

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Well Lynn around here, even though a FACE CORD or RIC is not an established term, or a true measurement in terms of firewood processing, it has a place in the community.
It stipulates apporxmitly 1/3 cord of stacked wood.
Now weather or not the supplier is actually supplying 1/3 cord or not, is something else all together. And a unscrupulous dealer or an un educated consumer are at fault if it does not represent the presumed 1/3 cord.
 

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A face cord is a 4ft x 8ft stack of whatever length it's cut to. It's generally accepted, at least around here, and everybody else I've heard, that they're cut somewhere in the 16" to 20" range. Sometimes maybe they're cut to 24". We'll call it "stove length". In europe they do things way differently, but in the US of A, stoves (commercially made) generally accept around 18 to 20 inches.
Yes, I said "generally" a lot there. No, face cord is not a legal definition. Call up most firewood suppliers and ask for 10 face, you'll usually end up with a little bit more than 3 pulp cord of wood, give or take.