Electric Car in your future?

GreensvilleJay

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the real problem is the new 'golden rule'....

those with the gold, make the rules..
those that rule, get the gold.

We can't easily vote OUT the politicians, some are even appointed FOR LIFE !

And then there's the 'tail wagging the dog' problem where every minority gets SPECIAL rights and then CONTROL what happens from then on....
 

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Energy crisises are caused by governments. So it's a manufactured problem.
 
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GreensvilleJay

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No surprise to me... one of those 'you get what you paid for' deals....
The 'EV engineers' don't design for where YOU live, they design where they live...warm ,sunny California..
Friend's kid came down from the Soo....in her dad's gas pickup truck ! Left her GREATEST vehicle she's ever owned' up north...didn't want to chance having to stop 3 or 4 TIMES to get here ( 7-8 hr trip).

If you look into what goes on 'inside the battery pack', you'll understand why they are a friggin nighmare. Gone are the days of recharging Ni-Cads with a diode and cap, now you need a microcomputer and a LOT of other stuff on EACH cell of the Li-ion battery pack...
 

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When they get all the bugs worked out..... sure. Right now....... nope. Make me an electric truck with a 350-400 mile range WHILE TOWING, and make it rechargeable in 20 minutes or less, and I'll buy one. Don't care about it's 0-60 speed, top speed, or it's fancy extras. Make one that does what I need a truck to do.
 
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Having spent 1/2 a century designing battery powered' equipment it baffles me that 'they' built for '0 to 60 in 3 seconds' instead of DISTANCE !! With a few minor 'tweaks' of the 'computer', it is possible to DOUBLE the distance but marketing says everyone wants QUICK like a bunny NOT range.
I could get 3 days of operation in my energy control systems using just 4 Gates SLA batteries, the ones the US nuke subs were using. Two of them would actually start an original Mini.
Sadly it's not the 'tech' itself that's 'bad', rather the application and how it's used, that is bad.
It is possible to get 80% recharge(aka full charge ) in under 30 minutes. 5th gen 'super-super chargers' tech does work. Kinda pricey though in the low quantity that would be made.
That guy's 'TESLA trouble' is 'funny' to me. I understand the how and why it happened and the simple 'upgrade' that would prevent it from happening again.
 

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I was told that electric cars have battery heaters in them, and the colder it gets the more energy is used to heat the batteries. Cold batteries will not accept a charge so heaters are a necessity. They might be fine in Miami, but not very good in Montreal except in the warmer months. Come to think about it, Miami was 30* yesterday, so not so good in Miami either.
 

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In the Tesla trouble posted, the built in heaters could not warm up the battery pack as it was tooooo k-k-k-kold. This gets down to 'thermodynamics' and a few simple calculations that can be done on a 4 function calculator. You'd have thought 'T' would have done the math....though in their defense, EVs are NOT supposed to be driven in winter,especially if salt is used.....
 

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Everyone can keep an oil, gas, or diesel tank at home. Plug in the electric cars to those fuel tanks to run fossil fuel heaters, so you can charge the electric cars. :D.

Makes about as much sense as powering electric cars by fossil fuel plants. ;)
 

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Everyone can keep an oil, gas, or diesel tank at home. Plug in the electric cars to those fuel tanks to run fossil fuel heaters, so you can charge the electric cars. :D.

Makes about as much sense as powering electric cars by fossil fuel plants. ;)
They have diesel EV charger stations.
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Technically, that's a battery bank in the trailer. However, there are gas generator trailers for EVs.
 
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I was told that electric cars have battery heaters in them, and the colder it gets the more energy is used to heat the batteries. Cold batteries will not accept a charge so heaters are a necessity. They might be fine in Miami, but not very good in Montreal except in the warmer months. Come to think about it, Miami was 30* yesterday, so not so good in Miami either.
Nissan leaf battery heater doesn't even think about turning on until the inside of the battery is less than +14F.
The battery heater won't kick on with the car unplugged until something like -14F.
 

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Everyone can keep an oil, gas, or diesel tank at home. Plug in the electric cars to those fuel tanks to run fossil fuel heaters, so you can charge the electric cars. :D.

Makes about as much sense as powering electric cars by fossil fuel plants. ;)
It's better to burn domestic coal than burn foreign oil.