If you have a fixed price sales contract sit tight you are golden. You can probably flip your tractor for more money as soon as it arrives. If you just have a sales order be prepared to bend over.
Procurement of a Tractor
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If you have a fixed price sales contract sit tight you are golden. You can probably flip your tractor for more money as soon as it arrives. If you just have a sales order be prepared to bend over.
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I would do whatever you need to do to make sure that you actually have a guaranteed contract covering your price. You don’t want to wait all this time and then find out that what you have is not actually a guaranteed contract.
As I said in another thread, I’m in the process of buying a MX5400 and will be paying cash.
One dealer who would have to order the tractor said if I pay in full when we sign the purchase agreement, and the tractor is ordered before January 1st, the price will be locked in.
A second dealer who is farther away has one on the lot. He said Kubota is not locking in any prices and any orders that are delivered after January 1st will have a 4-6% price increase regardless if the dealer was paid in full at time of
order, along with any possible changes to programs/incentives.
He said he doesn’t see how the dealer could be offering a lock on an ordered tractor and he would be leery of any such promises, in writing or not.
He said if one of his salesmen erroneously promised a lock he would still have to charge more at delivery or he would refund the deposit and sell the tractor to someone else.
One dealer who would have to order the tractor said if I pay in full when we sign the purchase agreement, and the tractor is ordered before January 1st, the price will be locked in.
A second dealer who is farther away has one on the lot. He said Kubota is not locking in any prices and any orders that are delivered after January 1st will have a 4-6% price increase regardless if the dealer was paid in full at time of
order, along with any possible changes to programs/incentives.
He said he doesn’t see how the dealer could be offering a lock on an ordered tractor and he would be leery of any such promises, in writing or not.
He said if one of his salesmen erroneously promised a lock he would still have to charge more at delivery or he would refund the deposit and sell the tractor to someone else.
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Looks like that’s what I will do but it comes with a trade off.
The dealer with the one on the lot wants $2000 more than ordering one from the closest dealer ….if the price on the ordered tractor is really locked in.
The $2000 more is due to the dealer having to do the labor of installing 3 rear remotes and a couple of other what would be factory installed options, R14s vs R1s and the delivery charge.
Plus side of paying $2000 more would be having the tractor much sooner.
There is an old saying, "if wishes were horses, beggars would ride". There is no guarantee that the other dealer is ever going to deliver the tractor for the price that you were quoted. $2000 is a lot of money when you don't have it, but in today's market, you have very few choices. I called a Kubota dealer to see if they had a plow bolt in stock. The price on Messicks website is $1.04, and the local dealer wants $2.00 or 94 cents over the Kubota list price. 80 cents times 7 pieces are $5.60 more. That seems to be the way of the world today.
My hardware store sells plow bolts, but they aren't the pretty gold. That might be another choice. Fwiw, my dealer gave me two and a nut, no charge. I lost a couple out of my grader scraper before locktite.
Finances permitting....that would be mighty tempting. Rear remotes and tire options....tractor readily available. I suppose it warrants seeking the answer to the 'locked in' price of the first tractor deal. IF it is truly locked in...then I would assume you are obligated to wait for and accept the tractor already ordered.
On the other hand, the dealer might be willing to release you from that commitment and ease the strain for both you and them. If nothing is legally written in stone....I'd be inclined to go get the bird in hand.
I'd pony up the extra 2 grand for a tractor that's in stock. There's no telling how long you'll have to wait for a tractor that's "on order".
fried1765
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EXACTLY CORRECT!
We now live in a world that requires "defensive buying"!
IMHO:
If you THINK you are going to need/want a particular item relatively soon.......buy it now,.... because you have no idea when/if it will be available later,........ and you can reasonably assume that if available later, it will then cost more!
Socialism, and Communism work this way too!
Constrained supply, with continuing demand = long waits, and/or ever increasing prices.
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re: I suspect his contract has a void date, implied if not stated.
anything they 'imply' won't be legal under contract law as ANY/ALL ambiguity/questionable wording favours the party that did NOT write the contract, so this would be the buyer NOT the dealership....
what most people don't know is that YOU can add 'conditions' to the contract, before signing of course ,and those conditions ARE part of the contract.
anything they 'imply' won't be legal under contract law as ANY/ALL ambiguity/questionable wording favours the party that did NOT write the contract, so this would be the buyer NOT the dealership....
what most people don't know is that YOU can add 'conditions' to the contract, before signing of course ,and those conditions ARE part of the contract.
I have not ordered the tractor from him yet, but planned to this coming week.
I really wanted to buy from him as they would most likely be doing any future service work.
However I decided instead of paying in full to potentially lock in, and having nothing to show for the money for possibly 5-6 months, I am driving up tomorrow or Tuesday and buy the one one the lot.
The extra cost will at least be offset by having use of the tractor sooner. He said he has to order a couple of things but would expect to have it ready to go in 3-4 weeks. He said before delivery he would hook up some equipment to the rear remotes and third function and run them to make sure there are no hydraulic leaks or issues.
I hadn’t decided what grapple to get but the dealer said he has some Land Pride on the lot so I may just add that in with the purchase.
Wise decision IMO.
And you'll absolutely love a grapple.
Post pics when all is done. Enjoy your tractor.
In recent times (past two years) I tend to believe more and more in ‘bird in the hand’.
In my warped sense of reality, to me it’s not extra $$$ comparatively if you can’t actually take delivery of the other ‘deal’. But it’s not my money either. Good luck.
In my warped sense of reality, to me it’s not extra $$$ comparatively if you can’t actually take delivery of the other ‘deal’. But it’s not my money either. Good luck.
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happy you're GETTING the one on the lot !! The local dealer '3-4weeks' is concerning...
had you decided to go with that, I'd say to put into the 'bill of sale' ,delivery on or before month/day/year. If he'd said no, RUN do not walk away from that dealer.
had you decided to go with that, I'd say to put into the 'bill of sale' ,delivery on or before month/day/year. If he'd said no, RUN do not walk away from that dealer.
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Update: I just received a confirmation from my dealer Wednesday that my tractor finally arrived on their lot. Total wait time so far, 1 year, 2 months, 11 days from time of placing the order to it getting to dealer. Now I'll see how long it takes for assembly and delivery.
