Brexit Explained

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Reminds me of all the Vote No signs on proposition 3 in Michigan: Their major reason: "It's too confusing" and " Too extreme".

I would never want to admit that I couldn't figure out what the proposition was trying to say.
 

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I think once a decision is taken, it should take more than 50 percent of the people to reject it. Maybe 60 percent? Not sure what the number should be...but the Brexit vote was very close.

This probably makes no sense...But in our senate we have something similar with 60 percent needed to stop a filibuster. Adds to stability I believe, although sometimes I don't like it. But I support it...
 
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I think once a decision is taken, it should take more than 50 percent of the people to reject it. Maybe 60 percent? Not sure what the number should be...but the Brexit vote was very close.

This probably makes no sense...But in our senate we have something similar with 60 percent needed to stop a filibuster. Adds to stability I believe, although sometimes I don't like it. But I support it...
AGREED !!!
 

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The problem in Brittin was that people from all over the EU could come into the country without any stipulations and if they couldn't control immigration the native population would become the majority and the immigrants would take over the entire political process. There is nothing wrong with controlled immigration, but uncontrolled immigration can change the fabric of the original society and drive it to extinction. This is what happened to North America when the Europeans came to its shores and drove the native population off their lands and onto reservations. How the native North American Indians were treated was criminal.
 

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The problem in Brittin was that people from all over the EU could come into the country without any stipulations and if they couldn't control immigration the native population would become the majority and the immigrants would take over the entire political process. There is nothing wrong with controlled immigration, but uncontrolled immigration can change the fabric of the original society and drive it to extinction. This is what happened to North America when the Europeans came to its shores and drove the native population off their lands and onto reservations. How the native North American Indians were treated was criminal.
I'm not sure that is true. Just because people can enter and work in a country does not mean they can vote in elections.

For example I lived and worked in Japan, but could not vote there. And my wife who is Japanese cannot vote here because she is not an American citizen, although a permanent resident for 40 years.

The EU is not the United States. Different animals...

Correct me if I am wrong...
 

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Your wife is what is known as a "resident alien", and I am not certain what the rules are today. Back in the 1960s, my uncle had to register every year with the federal government to maintain that status. Now, some states and/or cities are allowing "resident aliens" to vote in local elections. Unfortunately today many of our "resident aliens" have not arrived here by following the traditional rules and are "illegal resident aliens" hoping that even though they broke the law to get here, the government will allow them to stay and become citizens.
 

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Your wife is what is known as a "resident alien", and I am not certain what the rules are today. Back in the 1960s, my uncle had to register every year with the federal government to maintain that status. Now, some states and/or cities are allowing "resident aliens" to vote in local elections. Unfortunately today many of our "resident aliens" have not arrived here by following the traditional rules and are "illegal resident aliens" hoping that even though they broke the law to get here, the government will allow them to stay and become citizens.
Actually I think today's term is "Permanent resident." Same difference though.

Interesting tid bit, my wife's green card was issued at a time when they did not include an expiration date. So she never needs to renew it, or do anything different that I do as a native born person. Other green card holders have to pay for a renewal every ten years. Last I heard it costs $400 for that.

Another thing that surprised me was a friend who was born in Japan and was here as a permanent resident went to renew his green card, but the government person asked him, "why pay the $400 when you can become a citizen and it costs you nothing?"

He is a citizen now with $400 extra somewhere...LOL