Guns...Times have changed...

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Straying to the dark side!
Nope several have flat fallen face first into the preverbal cow pie!
Am I going to be required to give several a time out?
 

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Wife and I went to the outdoor range today. We took our G19s and setup at 10 yards. We had fun, since it had been a year since her and I had been shooting together.

I know it is hard for those that don't shoot to understand the enjoyment one can get from shooting, but we really do enjoy spending time at the range.

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Her target on the left and mine is on the right. I need to work on my weak hand shooting, but pleased to get my hits.
 
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I'm thinking the popcorn has become stale and the butter has gone rancid in this theater!
 
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I'm thinking the popcorn has become stale and the butter has gone rancid in this theater!
lOL. I had to look back to see what the original thread topic was…AND I am the OP. 😳

Still think times have changed though…perhaps not for the better.
 
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IT SHOWS!

NICE TARGET STANDS! :love:
Fairly simple to make, I think I have 8 or 10 of them. I don't know how people do it, but every time (at least it seems like it) I take a new person shooting, they will shoot through one of my uprights. Use to be cheap to replace, right now, we just move the target lower. :p
 

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Gas prices ?? :unsure: 🍿🍿 Oh wait, that's a different thread, never mind ;)
Gas prices have increased so much in Mexico that the government is subsidizing fuel so people can afford it. Gas prices are higher in Canada, South America, and Europe than the US. This situation is worldwide; far bigger than US political affairs and far bigger than anything the US president can affect. The world is completely different than 2 years ago and any comparison is invalid.
 

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Gas prices have increased so much in Mexico that the government is subsidizing fuel so people can afford it. Gas prices are higher in Canada, South America, and Europe than the US. This situation is worldwide; far bigger than US political affairs and far bigger than anything the US president can affect. The world is completely different than 2 years ago and any comparison is invalid.
Just to be clear, I wasn't comparing anything. I just left a sardonic comment concerning the entertainment value of both this thread and the other one on "fuel prices". As Wolfman said, neither one is 'fresh' ;)
And now Daren brought some 'covid thread' into the mix. It's like a polarizing political buffet in here o_O
Don't shut it down yet Wolfman :cool:
 
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And now Daren brought some 'covid thread' into the mix. It's like a polarizing political buffet in here o_O
I prefer synthetic motor oil, general purpose grease, and use the expensive SUDT2 fluid...... ;)
 
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Gas prices have increased so much in Mexico that the government is subsidizing fuel so people can afford it. Gas prices are higher in Canada, South America, and Europe than the US. This situation is worldwide; far bigger than US political affairs and far bigger than anything the US president can affect. The world is completely different than 2 years ago and any comparison is invalid.
I will have to respectfully disagree with you. Yes, it isn't two years ago, we can agree on that.

The US has been able to set the standard and world follows. We are HUGE economic driver and the world depends on our money. Over the last two years, our political representatives has made our nation look foolish and placed other nations as a priority verses our own. This is being done, in my opinion, to further their socialist agenda. As such, this has led to the position that we are currently in and the failed leadership of the current administration. The current administration has worked hard to prove themselves anti-business and caused us to recede instead of expand coming out of the pandemic.

I will also say, that neither political party seems to have the heart of the American people at the forefront, but instead are more concerned with getting re-elected to their nice paying/benefit full jobs.

Many times I have thought that if we would take the pay and benefits away from elected officials, we would see who was actually working for the people verses their pocket book.
 
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I will have to respectfully disagree with you. Yes, it isn't two years ago, we can agree on that.

The US has been able to set the standard and world follows. We are HUGE economic driver and the world depends on our money. Over the last two years, our political representatives has made our nation look foolish and placed other nations as a priority verses our own. This is being done, in my opinion, to further their socialist agenda. As such, this has led to the position that we are currently in and the failed leadership of the current administration. The current administration has worked hard to prove themselves anti-business and caused us to recede instead of expand coming out of the pandemic.

I will also say, that neither political party seems to have the heart of the American people at the forefront, but instead are more concerned with getting re-elected to their nice paying/benefit full jobs.

Many times I have thought that if we would take the pay and benefits away from elected officials, we would see who was actually working for the people verses their pocket book.
I don’t agree with the “America alone” philosophy of the former administration. We each have our opinions, but I believe that made the US look foolish and less respected in the world. Isolationism is a lesson the nation learned in the 1940s isn’t a good approach. Looks like many forgot that lesson. And I still don’t believe that US political policies set worldwide fuel prices. We are simply not the only source of fuel in the world. The world engaged in inflationary spending during Covid and the world is now experiencing the hangover from that.
 
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Times haven’t changed a lot. Media corruption/propaganda is full steam ahead. There are as many kids loosing their lives in Chicago many weeks, and yet there is almost no reporting of it. Not that it’s ok to lose kids in other places, but some media outlets seem to be intentionally furthering an agenda. The places with the most legal guns don’t have the most crime.

I guess we’ll find out how many people like what’s going on in November. I’m hopeful, but still live in a safe place if everything hasn’t quite swung back the right way.
 
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Just to be clear, I wasn't comparing anything. I just left a sardonic comment concerning the entertainment value of both this thread and the other one on "fuel prices". As Wolfman said, neither one is 'fresh' ;)
And now Daren brought some 'covid thread' into the mix. It's like a polarizing political buffet in here o_O
Don't shut it down yet Wolfman :cool:
I just thought that it was an interesting comparison to get folks to think for themselves. Ones considered "BAD" and the other is considered "Good" by the main stream media 😉😉😉
 
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I don’t agree with the “America alone” philosophy of the former administration. We each have our opinions, but I believe that made the US look foolish and less respected in the world. Isolationism is a lesson the nation learned in the 1940s isn’t a good approach. Looks like many forgot that lesson. And I still don’t believe that US political policies set worldwide fuel prices. We are simply not the only source of fuel in the world. The world engaged in inflationary spending during Covid and the world is now experiencing the hangover from that.
Actually, since you brought up history, you will know what make the United States unique among other States. Nations/countries are known as States. The United States took 50 countries and combined them underneath one flag, which Europe has tried with limited success. The US has gotten so good at combining, we forget that we are actually 50 States/countries. If you need a reminder of this, just look at States National Guard. The reason for States having their own National Guard was to secure their individual sovereignty. No longer do we view ourselves as individual nations especially since the Civil War and that Federalism was affirmed as the leading guidance.

So, you say that the US and my isolationist approach is for one Nation, but the realty is that it covers 50 nations that have come under one flag.

Every country has some form of isolation and this is generally demonstrated with tariffs to protect the local industries. Currently China is showing this by not exporting urea, India is doing the same by not exporting wheat. So, rather you like it or not, every country practices isolationism and rightfully so. The representatives of the nation should place their country first and then when needs are meet there, use the excess to influence and help other nations. You shouldn't place your nation in a position of need in the name of being a good neighbor.

As far as oil, when you are the top producer of oil and you produce more oil than you use, you absolutely should be able to influence the prices.

Top 10 Countries with the Highest Oil Production (barrels per day)
United States - 11,567,000.
Russia - 10,503,000.
Saudi Arabia - 10,225,000.
Canada - 4,656,000.
Iraq - 4,260,000.
China - 3,969,000.
United Arab Emirates - 2,954,000.
Brazil - 2,852,000.

So our influence on the global market should be great and our ability to reduce our oil prices by being self-serving should have us at one of the lost fuel cost.

Finally, I do agree, the worldwide influence of just printing out money and handing it out does have a huge impact on inflation. The print and spend policy of our nation and others need to stop if they want to control inflation and stop trying to buy votes. IF we would stop this in our nation and solidify the dollar, you would see the world economy starting to stabilize. When you are the biggest, you carry a lot of influence.

The United States' economy is the largest in the world as measured by nominal GDP. The biggest contributor to that GDP is the economy's service sector, which includes finance, real estate, insurance, professional and business services, and healthcare.
 
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Actually, since you brought up history, you will know what make the United States unique among other States. Nations/countries are known as States. The United States took 50 countries and combined them underneath one flag, which Europe has tried with limited success. The US has gotten so good at combining, we forget that we are actually 50 States/countries. If you need a reminder of this, just look at States National Guard. The reason for States having their own National Guard was to secure their individual sovereignty. No longer do we view ourselves as individual nations especially since the Civil War and that Federalism was affirmed as the leading guidance.

So, you say that the US and my isolationist approach is for one Nation, but the realty is that it covers 50 nations that have come under one flag.

Every country has some form of isolation and this is generally demonstrated with tariffs to protect the local industries. Currently China is showing this by not exporting urea, India is doing the same by not exporting wheat. So, rather you like it or not, every country practices isolationism and rightfully so. The representatives of the nation should place their country first and then when needs are meet there, use the excess to influence and help other nations. You shouldn't place your nation in a position of need in the name of being a good neighbor.

As far as oil, when you are the top producer of oil and you produce more oil than you use, you absolutely should be able to influence the prices.

Top 10 Countries with the Highest Oil Production (barrels per day)
United States - 11,567,000.
Russia - 10,503,000.
Saudi Arabia - 10,225,000.
Canada - 4,656,000.
Iraq - 4,260,000.
China - 3,969,000.
United Arab Emirates - 2,954,000.
Brazil - 2,852,000.

So our influence on the global market should be great and our ability to reduce our oil prices by being self-serving should have us at one of the lost fuel cost.

Finally, I do agree, the worldwide influence of just printing out money and handing it out does have a huge impact on inflation. The print and spend policy of our nation and others need to stop if they want to control inflation and stop trying to buy votes. IF we would stop this in our nation and solidify the dollar, you would see the world economy starting to stabilize. When you are the biggest, you carry a lot of influence.

The United States' economy is the largest in the world as measured by nominal GDP. The biggest contributor to that GDP is the economy's service sector, which includes finance, real estate, insurance, professional and business services, and healthcare.
Yes the US economy is the largest as a single nation, but the combined EU is larger. But there are way more things relative to fuel prices going on here:

The 2022 US oil production is currently on track to tie the record annual production, but of course there is still a worldwide shortage due to the loss of Russian oil in the system. Also, the major oil companies all made similar announcements at shareholder meetings that they would focus on shareholder returns to make up for by losses in 2020/21. We also have a shortage in refinery capacity, and this isn’t a new thing, but has gotten more acute since the US has stepped up exports of fuels. And there are many more factors contributing to the current cost of fuel, most of which aren’t under the control of a US president. I’m not quite sure how your state’s rights/federalism discussion is relevant to this topic?
 

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You won't see on national news, it doesn't fit the anti gun agenda. Again till the loss of values is addressed things with our youth wont stop. That though didn't get Biden elected so guns and Electric vehicle's it is every day all day in the news.