Grease selection

[muddhogg]

I think I've finally got it narrowed down to which grease to use, just wanted to double check I'll be using the right kind on the right parts.

Valvoline Moly-Fortified Gray Full Synthetic - for the FEL (loader)

and

Lucas Oil 10005 Red 'N' Tacky - for the tractor

Look good?

Tractor is an L2501 w/LA525.

 

[Roadworthy]

It looks good to me. You can use the Valvoline in many of the locations you'd normally grease but moly is not recommended for ball or roller bearings - it's TOO slick.

 

[ACDII]

Too slick? Thats a first LOL. Moly is the slickest lubricant on the planet, but because it is so slick, it doesn't stick so has to be blended with other bases. Ford recommends a Moly based lube for all axle bearings, which are roller bearings, that is until Ford stopped using wheel bearings and went to all sealed hub units. That Valvoline mentioned is actually the lube Ford recommends.

Too much Moly can be bad for roller bearings since they can slide instead of spin, but the Valvoline mentioned has less than 5% Moly per volume, which is why it is Ford recommended. It is safe to use on any equipment since the base stock is a lithium like the red and tacky. Anything more than 5% is not recommended for moving bearings, but great for sliding surfaces like bushings and pins.

IOW Either one of the OP greases will work fine for both FEL and Tractor. Load it up and go to town.

 

[UpNorthMI]

Any grease is better than no grease!

 

[muddhogg]

Thanks guys, I saw in the manual that the FEL suggests moly.

 

[muddhogg]

Changed my mind, think I'm going to go with Schaeffer Manufacturing Co. 02382-029S Ultra Supreme Grease, NLGI #2

 

[B737]

Mudd, I use schaeffer 274 on the loader and Lucas Red & Tacky for the stuff that spins. I think 238 is a good choice from them too.

I used red and tacky on the loader of my B2601 but switched to using 274 on the LX loader. I believe it's an aluminum base. I have found it seems to stay in place better during washings, isnt displaced as easy, and is more difficult to clean up than Red N Tacky was on the loader.

When I was reading Schaeffers spec sheets I gathered: 238 for large bearings like in excavators, EP, ect. 238 not for roller bearings. I think 274 is a synthetic version of 221, their data sheets show 274 221 also not for roller bearings.

 

[muddhogg]

Mudd, I use schaeffer 274 on the loader and Lucas Red & Tacky for the stuff that spins. I think 238 is a good choice from them too.

I used red and tacky on the loader of my B2601 but switched to using 274 on the LX loader. I believe it's an aluminum base. I have found it seems to stay in place better during washings, isnt displaced as easy, and is more difficult to clean up than Red N Tacky was on the loader.

When I was reading Schaeffers spec sheets I gathered: 238 for large bearings like in excavators, EP, ect. 238 not for roller bearings. I think 274 is a synthetic version of 221, their data sheets show 274 221 also not for roller bearings.

Thanks for the technical info B737! I did some research on BobisTheOilGuy and it seems that the Schaeffers 238 was a good recommendation for the FEL.

 

[mcfarmall]

It looks good to me. You can use the Valvoline in many of the locations you'd normally grease but moly is not recommended for ball or roller bearings - it's TOO slick.

Incorrect urban legend. Moly grease at 3% is fine for rolling element bearings. Above 5% moly is where your notion holds true.

 

[GeoHorn]

Incorrect urban legend. Moly grease at 3% is fine for rolling element bearings. Above 5% moly is where your notion holds true.

I guess a “little pregnant” isn’t a problem, heh?

A “little” sand probably won’t hurt your engine either.

“Hey, Mr. Accident Investigator…I’d only had ONE drink!…”.

Moly is like graphite… high enough concentration will do the job…not enough won’t…but brings you all the problems of too much where it doesn’t belong.
Moly is not recommeded for high temp or high speed roller bearings because it will allow the rollers to “slide” instead of ”roll”…and that damages the bearing.

 

[Technical Ted]

I use Lucas 5% moly grease on my front end loader. Get it at NAPA.

Heavy Duty Mining & Construction Grease – Lucas Oil Products, Inc. – Keep That Engine Alive!

lucasoil.com

Ted