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jimr63

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Finally have a pic to post in this thread. The M5-091 has to go into the shop for warranty repairs on the DEF system.
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fried1765

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Finally have a pic to post in this thread. The M5-091 has to go into the shop for warranty repairs on the DEF system. View attachment 66719
"Repairs on the DEF system"?
Darn: I thought those DEF systems were foolproof!;)
VERY nice looking trailer there!
 
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jimr63

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"Repairs on the DEF system"?
Darn: I thought those DEF systems were foolproof!
VERY nice looking trailer there!
Thanks, it’ll be her maiden voyage with something on her back. Ordered in March and just picked it up. The M5 series has a known issue with the header in the DEF tank that Kubota says they have a final fix for it now. Mine went into limp mode today while chopping corn stalks so hopefully they’re right.
 

nh_handyman

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Read through all 19 'pages' of posts.

I had/have a question about the bucket on the BH77 backhoe and if it needed to be 'down'. - Well - I got one answer which was 'has not been a problem' - but others seem to imply weight of the rig may mean it needs to be touching the bed and strapped.

Anyway - B2650 - on a 2003 16' Cronkhite trailer (brakes on all four after replacing the wiring and brake units!) - 2013 Avalanche (added brake controller, upgraded class V hitch and air-bags (at 10psi in this picture))

I did not have all the chains when I took this picture - that is another day's task (figuring out all the tie-downs).

I also backed the tractor up a bit more to put the rear tires right over trailer tires to control the tongue weight
 

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BigG

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[QUOTE="nh_handyman, post: 494892, member:

I had/have a question about the bucket on the BH77 backhoe and if it needed to be 'down'. - Well - I got one answer which was 'has not been a problem' - but others seem to imply weight of the rig may mean it needs to be touching the bed and strapped.




The rules of the DOT are sometimes left for interpretation. The bucket should be touching the deck and a strap or chain used to secure it. As should the FEL.

If you do strap them down it is one more reason for the officer to look at other loads as you have demonstrated your good will of following the rules.

Can you go with out doing it? More than likely. But why give a reason to get pulled over?
 
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nh_handyman

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The rules of the DOT are sometimes left for interpretation. The bucket should be touching the deck and a strap or chain used to secure it. As should the FEL.

If you do strap them down it is one more reason for the officer to look at other loads as you have demonstrated your good will of following the rules.

Can you go with out doing it? More than likely. But why give a reason to get pulled over?
Thanks!
 

nh_handyman

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To get that bucket on the deck with the tractor back a little meas I need to swing the boom to the side. I'll have to figure that out - OR remove the bucket and put it in the truck.
 

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To get that bucket on the deck with the tractor back a little meas I need to swing the boom to the side. I'll have to figure that out - OR remove the bucket and put it in the truck.
It is not the bucket they worry about. They want the boom from suddenly jumping up and hitting a bridge or other over head object. A strap or chain tucked through or around the bottom of the boom is all you need. Make it snug. There is no need to make it super tight. If you have a hook on the rear of the bucket you could tie a chain to that as the chain runs across the trailer.
 

nh_handyman

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It is not the bucket they worry about. They want the boom from suddenly jumping up and hitting a bridge or other over head object. A strap or chain tucked through or around the bottom of the boom is all you need. Make it snug. There is no need to make it super tight. If you have a hook on the rear of the bucket you could tie a chain to that as the chain runs across the trailer.
SOOOO - bucket not on deck - but chain/strapped to trailer ?

As mentioned - I still need to figure my chain locations on the tractor and FEL...and the rear bucket

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Two things come to mind. One is to set the teeth on the deck. Use a block of wood with a grove cut into it so there is no damage to the deck. Or tip the sticks to the back and touch the deck or a combination of both. Place a red flag on the boom where it hangs past the end of the trailer and run the chain in the gap between the boom and the thumb.
 
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nh_handyman

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Move the arm to the left or right and drop the back hoe boom to the deck. Run chain across the bucket from side to side of the trailer.
Thanks - Next time I get the trailer in the driveway to do some testing I'll try that.
 

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Also the position of the FEL bucket can make a huge difference in how far the tractor can be driven onto the trailer. Mine loads further if it's in the dump position.
 
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jimr63

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Just curious, is that a 14K trailer?
The trailer is a 20K GTWR and weighs 5500lbs so I can haul 14.5k lbs. It has a 24’ deck and 5’ beaver tail. My M5-091 with loaded tires, one set of wheel weights, 84” bucket on the front and a 84” box blade on the back weighs 12k. The truck is a 2018 Ram 3500 dually with a 5k payload and 30K trailer rating. Sorry, meant to put all that in my post.
 
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The trailer is a 20K GTWR and weighs 5500lbs so I can haul 14.5k lbs. It has a 24’ deck and 5’ beaver tail. My M5-091 with loaded tires, one set of wheel weights, 84” bucket on the front and a 84” box blade on the back weighs 12k. The truck is a 2018 Ram 3500 dually with a 5k payload and 30K trailer rating. Sorry, meant to put all that in my post.
Random non-American question. In my part of the world (NZ) you can tow up to 3,500kg (roughly 7,000lbs) behind a light truck - actually the rule is 6,000kg combined mass, but nobody checks the weight of your tow vehicle. I guess not many vehicles weigh more than 2,500kg anyway. Beyond that you need a different driving license (heavy traffic). Which most people don't bother getting, the test is reasonably onerous.

What sort of license do you need in the US to pull 30,000lbs plus weight of truck - call it nearly 40,000lbs/20,000kg/20 ton combined? Is that still a basic license, or do you need something beyond your car license?
 

jimr63

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Random non-American question. In my part of the world (NZ) you can tow up to 3,500kg (roughly 7,000lbs) behind a light truck - actually the rule is 6,000kg combined mass, but nobody checks the weight of your tow vehicle. I guess not many vehicles weigh more than 2,500kg anyway. Beyond that you need a different driving license (heavy traffic). Which most people don't bother getting, the test is reasonably onerous.

What sort of license do you need in the US to pull 30,000lbs plus weight of truck - call it nearly 40,000lbs/20,000kg/20 ton combined? Is that still a basic license, or do you need something beyond your car license?
Varies by state I believe but usually you need a different license once you go above a certain weight. Where I live once you get above 26k combined weight ratings a license other than a standard four wheeled vehicle license is required...Unless your a farmer transporting equipment within 150 miles of your farm. My grain trucks weigh 80k when loaded with grain. 😊
 
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