i borrowed a neighbours rotary mower to use on my l2250 and when i went to use is i couldnt get the pto engaged. i pressed the clutch and had everything in neutral and was just getting grinding noises when i tries to engage in either 540 or 1000 pto setting. if i shut the tractor off and engage the pto in 540 and start everything the pto will start but i cant disengage while running. any idea what might be wrong and what i can do to repair? also i gotta get the paddocks cut. will it harm the internals of the transmission or the motor if i engage the pto when off and then start the tractor? thank you in advance
l2250 pto wont engage
- Thread starter kubotal2250
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Consider checking the adjustment of the clutch. the problem could really be that simple. I wouldn't have thought so but that's how my neighbor fixed his drive problem.
Awesome I will look into that. I like trying the simple things first. Hiw do I go about adjusting the clutch
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You won’t hurt tractor by putting it into pto operation before starting it.
Adjust the clutch pedal linkage so you can feel the pressure after pedal moves about 3/4 to 1 1/2 inch of free movement. You should have to shorten the linkage length
Adjust the clutch pedal linkage so you can feel the pressure after pedal moves about 3/4 to 1 1/2 inch of free movement. You should have to shorten the linkage length
i managed to cut the paddocks today with the pto engaged before starting. i had a quick look at the clutch im assuming it is the small turnbuckle that i adjust? ive got practically to free play on the pedal at the moment
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Good you got the work done.
What happens when you push the clutch pedal down after the implement has been spinning? Does it disengage the implement or just stop tractor motion?
What type of tractor drive = HST or gear or ??
I assume that you have a double acting clutch if you’re tractor is gear drive but confirm what your clutch is. I think the double acting clutch may have some adjustment other than the linkage on the pedal.
But if the pedal is tight that means someone has tried to fix the problem (possibly incorrectly) and you may be slipping the drive clutch for the drive system to the wheels.
What happens when you push the clutch pedal down after the implement has been spinning? Does it disengage the implement or just stop tractor motion?
What type of tractor drive = HST or gear or ??
I assume that you have a double acting clutch if you’re tractor is gear drive but confirm what your clutch is. I think the double acting clutch may have some adjustment other than the linkage on the pedal.
But if the pedal is tight that means someone has tried to fix the problem (possibly incorrectly) and you may be slipping the drive clutch for the drive system to the wheels.
it is a manual shuttle shift transmission. if i depress the clutch all the way in the implement still seems to run. its got about 1/2 inch free play but not much
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I have no idea how that type of transmission works so hate to comment much about it or the clutch.
But I am 100% sure the PTO clutch should be disconnected when the pedal is down unless you have some exotic electric pto switch or hydraulic operated pto, but it doesn’t sound like it.
I believe the logic on a double acting clutch is that there are two clutches connected to the same pedal. Push it half in, it disengages the drive clutch. Let's you change gear or stop without the implement losing power. Push it all the way in, it disengages the second clutch, and stops the implement.
So the theory is that someone's tried to fix the problem by adjusting the drive clutch free play. But you need to adjust the PTO clutch free play. As to how you do that, I don't know.
Have you ever used the pto to drive something in the past or is this rotary mower the first?
If you have a dual clutch, really one clutch on the back of the first clutch, you can still end up with the pto clutch rusted/frozen to the back of the main clutch such that it will not break free.
Without knowing which clutch you have I am reluctant to suggest ways you might free it.
Dave
If you have a dual clutch, really one clutch on the back of the first clutch, you can still end up with the pto clutch rusted/frozen to the back of the main clutch such that it will not break free.
Without knowing which clutch you have I am reluctant to suggest ways you might free it.
Dave
to be honest im not sure if it has a dual stage clutch or not. the clutch inspection cover is covered by the mounting bracket for the front end loader unfortunatley. if i took my number off the side of the transmission to a dealer would they be able to look up if is equipped with a dual or single stage clutch
also when i disengage the clutch fully the pto still operates
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Yes the dealer should get be able to answer the question on if it has two stage clutch. They may be able to provide information on how to adjust it also.
If it doesn't have a two stage clutch, then surely a single stage clutch would mean both PTO and drive should disengage at the same time.
You said when you push the clutch in the drive stops, but PTO keeps spinning. So it can't be a single stage clutch - if the drive stops then the clutch is engaged, and if it were single stage then the PTO should stop too?
Disclaimer, I have an HST machine, no actual experience with a two stage clutch. Just trying to use logic, such as it is.
You said when you push the clutch in the drive stops, but PTO keeps spinning. So it can't be a single stage clutch - if the drive stops then the clutch is engaged, and if it were single stage then the PTO should stop too?
Disclaimer, I have an HST machine, no actual experience with a two stage clutch. Just trying to use logic, such as it is.