R4 Forum Research

[Dwight Bremer]

Our dealer had originally ordered our new L4060 HSTC with R1 (AG) tires. After extended research on OTT, I decided to go with R4s. For our purposes they seem to be the better overall solution.

There was no change in price even though information indicated the R4's are more expensive. Maybe they had something built into the price for "ignorance factor changes"?

 

[NCL4701]

Quite possible. When I bought my L4701 about a year and a half ago, dealer offered a $1000 price break for swapping the R4’s that were on it for R1’s.

 

[Henro]

Our dealer had originally ordered our new L4060 HSTC with R1 (AG) tires. After extended research on OTT, I decided to go with R4s. For our purposes they seem to be the better overall solution.

There was no change in price even though information indicated the R4's are more expensive. Maybe they had something built into the price for "ignorance factor changes"?

Maybe you paid the R4 price when the original tractor was supplied with the R1 tires. So yes, it could boil down to the dealer trying to take advantage of buyer ignorance...trying to make an easy extra buck on the sale.

Really do not have a clue though...

 

[Dwight Bremer]

I can read articles and watch all the videos in the world while still remaining mostly ignorant on the tractor and implements.

After it all finally arrives in our yard, I will start learning.

 

[Goz63]

I feel you Dwight. Mine finally got here and I was able to mess with it for two days then some how MS decided it was monsoon season. can’t wait to get some seat time.

 

[chief36chevy]

I have a BX2360 with turf tires on it. I have been thinking about changing to R4 tires. Can I replace the tires one axle at a time? Or do I need to change them all at one time?

 

[Dwight Bremer]

I have a BX2360 with turf tires on it. I have been thinking about changing to R4 tires. Can I replace the tires one axle at a time? Or do I need to change them all at one time?

No expert on the subject, but I don't see any reason that you couldn't do one axle at a time.

 

[bmblank]

No expert on the subject, but I don't see any reason that you couldn't do one axle at a time.

If it's 2 wheel drive, you're basically fine. IF it's 4 wheel drive, you need to pay attention to the diameter of each tire, as that drives the rolling circumference. The 4 wheel drive is set up so that the fronts and rears roll at specific rates to each other. IF they roll at a different ratio... Trouble.

 

[Dwight Bremer]

If it is 4 wheel drive the manual specifically states you shouldn't use 4 wheel drive on a hard surfaced road. I believe that is because the front axle is geared a bit higher than the rear axle (taking into account tire circumference). This ratio/circumference difference is minor, but effectively keeps the tractor running straighter on soft ground because the rear axle isn't trying to pass the front axle. If the rear axle is out-speeding the front axle you will be weaving around like an inebriate. Driving with that ratio difference on hard surface is hard on tractor internals, burns more fuel, and wear tires excessively.

 

[Henro]

If it is 4 wheel drive the manual specifically states you shouldn't use 4 wheel drive on a hard surfaced road. I believe that is because the front axle is geared a bit higher than the rear axle (taking into account tire circumference). This ratio/circumference difference is minor, but effectively keeps the tractor running straighter on soft ground because the rear axle isn't trying to pass the front axle. If the rear axle is out-speeding the front axle you will be weaving around like an inebriate. Driving with that ratio difference on hard surface is hard on tractor internals, burns more fuel, and wear tires excessively.

What you say is likely true, but I have read that the biggest reason for the front tires turning faster than the rear is because otherwise turning becomes difficult.

 

[eserv]

What you say is likely true, but I have read that the biggest reason for the front tires turning faster than the rear is because otherwise turning becomes difficult.

The front wheels have a further distance to travel when making a turn so need a faster ratio.