Can you regen early?

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I am thinking while I am tilling I am using a lot of HP. The tractor is a L4060HSTC.

The PM is 23% right now.
 

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I am thinking while I am tilling I am using a lot of HP. The tractor is a L4060HSTC.

The PM is 23% right now.
I believe one can initiate a parked regen whenever one desires but I would certainly not do one at 23%.

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No you cannot unfortunately, at least not in the L series tractors. To initiate a parked regen you have to be at level 2 particulate accumulation, which is "late" rather than early.

If you are working the tractor hard you may see your meter run backwards, passive regeneration.
 
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DPF machines are better off being run at higher RPM to keep the DPF as clean as possible. The mistake many make is to run them like our tractors of old (just enough to get the work done). I just run mine higher RPM and work a little faster. Just run the machine at or just below rated rpm and it will take care of the rest. If in the middle of a regen, dont turn the machine off.
 
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Run that engine at higher speeds than necessary….burn more fuel than necessary…. save the environment….
 
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Run that engine at higher speeds than necessary….burn more fuel than necessary…. save the environment….
That is what I was wondering when I got my M5660 with the regen stuff. I dropped out of College about 2 semesters too soon, cause I am sure one of my next classes would have 'splained what you are talking about!
 

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Seriously though, if you run a little hotter, it might keep you from regen. I went through that pain with my F450.

That’s a reason I bought a L2501. I could get by without the extra HP. Fwiw, I was noticing today when I was grader/scrapering the neighborhood road. It was so rough that I couldn’t have gone faster even if I had more HP. Much better after a few passes.
 

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DPF machines are better off being run at higher RPM to keep the DPF as clean as possible. The mistake many make is to run them like our tractors of old efficently using the power needed for the job (just enough to get the work done).
I fixed it for you.
 
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Have you ever owned a tractor with a DPF?
No. Thankfully, I was this close >< to buying a B3350 and settled for the B2650 instead. I would not make the jump to the DPF for only a few HP. 40+ would get me there.

I do own a truck that uses a DPF - AND as an added bonus to all the extra fuel burned to keep the DPF happy, I also burn another chemical (DEF) that comes in plastic bottles that aren't recycled. So I do have that going for me anyway (y).

DPF - Only an oil company executive could come up with this scheme.

Burn millions more barrels of fuel
Burn billions of gallons of a whole new chemical DEF - that happens to be packaged in plastic (more oil) and transported by the pallets on trucks all around the world (millions MORE gallons of fuel burned).

And this was the best they could come up with to trap some carbon. BTW - I identify as a carbon based life form.
 

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No. Thankfully, I was this close >< to buying a B3350 and settled for the B2650 instead. I would not make the jump to the DPF for only a few HP. 40+ would get me there.

I do own a truck that uses a DPF - AND as an added bonus to all the extra fuel burned to keep the DPF happy, I also burn another chemical (DEF) that comes in plastic bottles that aren't recycled. So I do have that going for me anyway (y).

DPF - Only an oil company executive could come up with this scheme.

Burn millions more barrels of fuel
Burn billions of gallons of a whole new chemical DEF - that happens to be packaged in plastic (more oil) and transported by the pallets on trucks all around the world (millions MORE gallons of fuel burned).

And this was the best they could come up with to trap some carbon. BTW - I identify as a carbon based life form.
And to add to this..... The DPF doesn't trap any carbon anyway! It still gets released into the atmosphere when it regens. All the DPF does is reduce visible soot
 
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No. Thankfully, I was this close >< to buying a B3350 and settled for the B2650 instead. I would not make the jump to the DPF for only a few HP. 40+ would get me there.

I do own a truck that uses a DPF - AND as an added bonus to all the extra fuel burned to keep the DPF happy, I also burn another chemical (DEF) that comes in plastic bottles that aren't recycled. So I do have that going for me anyway (y).

DPF - Only an oil company executive could come up with this scheme.

Burn millions more barrels of fuel
Burn billions of gallons of a whole new chemical DEF - that happens to be packaged in plastic (more oil) and transported by the pallets on trucks all around the world (millions MORE gallons of fuel burned).

And this was the best they could come up with to trap some carbon. BTW - I identify as a carbon based life form.

So you don't have a tractor with a DPF, you have no operating knowledge using one with a regen cycle, but you are on this thread and choose to issue corrections to people posting comments that own and operate them?
 

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And to add to this..... The DPF doesn't trap any carbon anyway! It still gets released into the atmosphere when it regens. All the DPF does is reduce visible soot
The DEF fluid breaks down the nitrogen and oxygen bond in the exhaust to reduce NOX. It also has nothing to do with reducing carbon emissions.
 

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So you don't have a tractor with a DPF, you have no operating knowledge using one with a regen cycle, but you are on this thread and choose to issue corrections to people posting comments that own and operate them?
Yes!

I also have never torqued my thumb down in a vise and whacked it with a hammer either, but I can give you plenty of advice about it.

No worries, you completely missed my point.
 

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The DEF fluid breaks down the nitrogen and oxygen bond in the exhaust to reduce NOX. It also has nothing to do with reducing carbon emissions.
So it isn't another chemical I am burning in my truck that comes in a plastic jug?
 

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Yes!

I also have never torqued my thumb down in a vise and whacked it with a hammer either, but I can give you plenty of advice about it.

No worries, you completely missed my point.
So what was your point, and how is it relevant to the OP’s initial question.
 

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This is what I changed,

DPF machines are better off being run at higher RPM to keep the DPF as clean as possible. The mistake many make is to run them like our tractors of old efficently using the power needed for the job (just enough to get the work done).


I thought it was self explanatory. What part are you stuck on?

The OP's question was answered in the 3rd post.