What are your opinions on CAN bus emulator for Kubota?
DPF Emulator, Legal in U.S.?
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"Our company doesnt resposible in any legal problems that groves with this decision."What are your opinions on CAN bus emulator for Kubota?
Are you seeking opinions on the functionality or the legality? It may work fine but I suspect you'll find it to be totally illegal in the US and if caught the fines are prohibitively expensive. Unless and until they have tractor emissions checks though you can probably get away with it but I wouldn't personally do it.
I think it’s probably illegal. But, there are litterally thousands or millions of DPF deletes on trucks, and very few arrests. YMMV. Obviously, CA would be very risky. Other states don’t even test vehicles that are newer ones.
I know people who only took their DPFs off their trucks after they were stranded multiple times. What were they supposed to do?
For my Kubota, I chose to skip the issue and buy a L2501.
I know people who only took their DPFs off their trucks after they were stranded multiple times. What were they supposed to do?
For my Kubota, I chose to skip the issue and buy a L2501.
Now that says a great deal about multiple issues."Our company doesnt resposible in any legal problems that groves with this decision."
SDT
it is 100% illegal in the USA to tamper with or remove or disable any exhaust emissions device. I don't have the clause in front of me but you can research it for yourself if you please
for that reason there are few if any places in the USA that will defeat the devices. Even the automotive aftermarket is being attacked by lawmakers over this stuff. Many have advertised "for off road or racing use only" and gotten away with it for years. Not anymore. They're taking backdoor tactics to go after them. Lund comes to mind. With Obiden in office, you're gonna see more of it.
I know they're not going door to door checking but they do read forums, and that sorta thing (much the same as Kubota employees read up on these forums). I also know what they did to my friend's fleet truck. Got stopped for speeding and they recognized that the tailpipe was not quite right. A peek underneath verified that it was tampered with. Fine. Company had 60 some odd trucks all the same, all got fined for each truck which lead them to look at ALL of the company's vehicles (big trucks little trucks all of them), which led to even more fines (and not all of them related to emissions devices). It was substantial.
for that reason there are few if any places in the USA that will defeat the devices. Even the automotive aftermarket is being attacked by lawmakers over this stuff. Many have advertised "for off road or racing use only" and gotten away with it for years. Not anymore. They're taking backdoor tactics to go after them. Lund comes to mind. With Obiden in office, you're gonna see more of it.
I know they're not going door to door checking but they do read forums, and that sorta thing (much the same as Kubota employees read up on these forums). I also know what they did to my friend's fleet truck. Got stopped for speeding and they recognized that the tailpipe was not quite right. A peek underneath verified that it was tampered with. Fine. Company had 60 some odd trucks all the same, all got fined for each truck which lead them to look at ALL of the company's vehicles (big trucks little trucks all of them), which led to even more fines (and not all of them related to emissions devices). It was substantial.
Isn't illegal a sick bird?
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After some more research,I'd think about it if I was in the position to use it.
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After some more research,I'd think about it if I was in the position to use it.
It is most certainly illegal. That being said, if I found myself with a tractor giving me troubles due to a faulty DPF, I would not hesitate to remove it. You see, in my opinion, the law is a sort-of a kind of a guideline. If it interferes with my personal freedoms or rights, I just ignore them.
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Illegal
LOTS of 'things' are illegal (like jaywalking', running red lights) but never get charged.....
reminds me of the 'Gold Rush' series 2 years ago. Brand new water pump(huge, diesel powered) kept shutting down, so the miners ripped off all the 'fancy exhuast' system parts,hardwired it, got it 'up and running' all this was shown ON TV ! No mention of EPA going after them, $10K fines or jail terms.....
BTW the reason for the pump turning off, the fancy computeed tried to update it's software(satlink),got cobbled...ooopsy...
I've never understood the pickups with 'tuners' NOT being fines, then again up here ,there isn't ONE HD motorcycle with a muffler on it.....
LOTS of 'things' are illegal (like jaywalking', running red lights) but never get charged.....
reminds me of the 'Gold Rush' series 2 years ago. Brand new water pump(huge, diesel powered) kept shutting down, so the miners ripped off all the 'fancy exhuast' system parts,hardwired it, got it 'up and running' all this was shown ON TV ! No mention of EPA going after them, $10K fines or jail terms.....
BTW the reason for the pump turning off, the fancy computeed tried to update it's software(satlink),got cobbled...ooopsy...
I've never understood the pickups with 'tuners' NOT being fines, then again up here ,there isn't ONE HD motorcycle with a muffler on it.....
If Kubota, Ford, fill in the blank screwed me over on their emissions design, I would remove it in a heartbeat.
Yes they are not machines for people who don't want to read or follow the directions.
Thanks for all the replies. Will keep this idea in mind for now.
Had no problem with 2 auto regens, doing a parked regen per the manual was a pain. I think you have to wait until the parked regen lamp and switch start to flash. As far as the manual, I need to become more fluent in Jenglish.
Had no problem with 2 auto regens, doing a parked regen per the manual was a pain. I think you have to wait until the parked regen lamp and switch start to flash. As far as the manual, I need to become more fluent in Jenglish.
Well Darn, wish my Kubota could use one, I would get one and put it on just for the environmentalist. I will just have to be satisfied with having a pre-environmental tractor.
It’s why I like older tractors without all that baloney. I found my Ford 4600 with only 561 hrs on it when I bought it and I’ll have it the rest of my life.