Glow Plug Brand?

[JeremyBX2200]

Hi all,
The temps are dropping in northern Indiana and it has me thinking about cold starts for my BX2200. So far it has started down below freezing, but doesnt fire off as fast. I was wanting to have a new set of glow plugs on hand incase I need them. This is my first winter with it. Is there a specific brand that is recommended. I know in my IDI diesel van there are certain brands that can swell and cause all kinds of issues.

I am also thinking of a new battery. The one in it seems a little weak in the cold. I was going to measure and get the biggest one I can fit. I am new to this and was wondering what a good CCA rating was for a battery that would fit in a BX?

Thanks

 

[85Hokie]

Well - you answered one of your own questions..... the battery, get the LARGEST CCA you can stick in the spot, might cost you over $150 or more but it will be worth it. I would say anything above 800 cca will be plenty - obviously there are bigger units - but they might not fit.

As with the glow plugs - get you a multimeter - set to the lowest OHM reading you have on your meter.

Unscrew the top wire on each.... then set the meter on the top lead and anywhere else on a good ground....
the reading should be around 1 ohm - which aint much, but either you will get a very high reading or nothing at all. Anything other than a number close to ONE is a bad sign.
AS for glow plugs - Bosch makes good ones, I have a set for a B7100 - have not placed them in yet however.

YOU will find a good 20-30 seconds of glowing will help immensely - sometime a little longer. Do not be afraid to hold that key for that period of time.

Another thing to get - a battery maintainer. Well worth it - keeps the battery in tip top shape through the cold winters.

I have had great luck with this company's chargers - own several different type.

https://www.amazon.com/NOCO-GENIUS1...1609447478&sprefix=genius+batt,aps,174&sr=8-9

 

[D2Cat]

85Hokie, I just purchased 2 of those. I like the desulfating feature of a maintainer. I have several brands of maintainers. I have a couple that have a magnet formed on the back and I really like that feature. I simply put the maintainer on the loader tower of the tractor, reach to the front grill and attach the cord. I have to step over the cord to get to the seat, so I never forget to disconnect. I purchased some round magnets that I will glue to the new charges to do the same thing.

I have batteries in my Dodge with a stamp date 10/11. Yep, nine year old batteries in a diesel.

 

[Henro]

Hi all,
The temps are dropping in northern Indiana and it has me thinking about cold starts for my BX2200. So far it has started down below freezing, but doesnt fire off as fast. I was wanting to have a new set of glow plugs on hand incase I need them. This is my first winter with it. Is there a specific brand that is recommended. I know in my IDI diesel van there are certain brands that can swell and cause all kinds of issues.

I am also thinking of a new battery. The one in it seems a little weak in the cold. I was going to measure and get the biggest one I can fit. I am new to this and was wondering what a good CCA rating was for a battery that would fit in a BX?

Thanks

I would change the battery first and see how things change. As others have said, the largest CCA battery that will fit is a good choice.

My BX2200 has about 1300 hours on it, and starts well in the cold, but the batter is relatively new and strong.

 

[Russell King]

Just replaced the glow plugs on my old L185 with parts from the dealer. The actual glow plugs are stamped with NGK as the manufacturer.

 

[JeremyBX2200]

Thanks. I already charged it. So far the tractor has started, just turns over slow and took a little more cranking.

 

[Henro]

Thanks. I already charged it. So far the tractor has started, just turns over slow and took a little more cranking.

This could be a sign the battery is on its last legs. Just because it is freshly charged does not mean that it offers full cranking amp capacity anymore.

Glad you got it going reliable for the moment. You might try putting jumper cables on the battery terminals from another battery/ vehicle and see if the cranking speed increases. If so, a new battery is almost certainly in your future...

 

[SidecarFlip]

2002 and 2004 Kubota's with original glow plugs and no problems. Not original batteries however, maybe 3 batteries ago, maybe.

 

[JimmyJazz]

Well - you answered one of your own questions..... the battery, get the LARGEST CCA you can stick in the spot, might cost you over $150 or more but it will be worth it. I would say anything above 800 cca will be plenty - obviously there are bigger units - but they might not fit.

As with the glow plugs - get you a multimeter - set to the lowest OHM reading you have on your meter.

Unscrew the top wire on each.... then set the meter on the top lead and anywhere else on a good ground....
the reading should be around 1 ohm - which aint much, but either you will get a very high reading or nothing at all. Anything other than a number close to ONE is a bad sign.
AS for glow plugs - Bosch makes good ones, I have a set for a B7100 - have not placed them in yet however.

YOU will find a good 20-30 seconds of glowing will help immensely - sometime a little longer. Do not be afraid to hold that key for that period of time.

Another thing to get - a battery maintainer. Well worth it - keeps the battery in tip top shape through the cold winters.

I have had great luck with this company's chargers - own several different type.

https://www.amazon.com/NOCO-GENIUS1-Fully-Automatic-Temperature-Compensation/dp/B07W46BX31/ref=sr_1_9?crid=8MH6STKTMH94&dchild=1&keywords=genius+battery+tender&qid=1609447478&sprefix=genius+batt,aps,174&sr=8-9

I just bought 2 battery maintainers at Harbor Freight for $8 each. Probably crap. I have payed lots more and they are still don't last much more than 2 years. How long do you figure your recommended charger will last?

 

[GeoHorn]

I have 8 of these Schumacher and I have two of the Black and Decker....and they work great for over 4 years now on two airplanes, a boat, two tractors, an asphalt compactor, an RTV, a spare car, and a travel trailer. Made by a reputable battery-charger company: Available online: https://www.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER...tery+charger+maintainer&qid=1609811424&sr=8-5

 

[BruceP]

To answer one of your questions:

Clip a voltmeter across the battery TERMINALS (not the connectors) and monitor voltage while glowing and cranking the engine.

*) If you see any voltage below 8V, battery is bad.
*) If voltage does not drop very much, you may have bad connections.
--move meter probes to be on engine-block and big terminal on starter
---if voltage is NOT over 10v, while cranking you likely have bad connections.

Some quick voltage-drop tests will isolate exactly where the problem is.

 

[lugbolt]

in 30 years of dealer tech work I never replaced any glow plugs. Kubota glow plugs don't fail very often if at all so long as they're used like they should be and not left on all the time. Some of the older Grand L series had some issues with the glow controller or glow relay that would keep the glow plugs on all the time as long as the key was on, and even on those I never seen one fail-ever. But on that, keep in mind that the southern US where I am, glow plugs are really not even needed but maybe twiced a year. I usually disconnect the relay on my truck, only time I actually use the glow plugs is if it's below about 20 deg F which isn't all that often (thank goodness). I hate cold! I used to live in the midwest when I was kid which was a few minutes ago (or decades) and remember being COLD all the time from Oct through about April. And I ain't got no insulation.

is there a possibility you still have some summer diesel in the tank? That will make them slightly harder to start. Winter diesel is formulated a little differently, makes them start quicker among other things.

 

[JeremyBX2200]

Thanks for all the feedback. I am holding off on the battery and GP right now. It is still currently starting. If it decides not to I have other batteries I can use to jump it.

 

[Louisianna]

Also found in article BX2200 starter click click -
remove bar across glow plugs and measure resistance to ground with voltmeter
I just did mine and they all read about 2 ohms - if they are bad the usually read open or short
If they test all about same put bar back in and connect wire
Put voltmeter on dc volts and measure your battery voltage should be around 12.5 vdc
If this is good pot your voltmeter on volts dc and connect between gnd on glow plugs - turn key to glow plug on and read voltage - when mine failed they read 8.3 vdc - after fixing resistive pto switches - 30 amp fuse holder - replacing cracked positive battery cable the voltage was 10.55 vdc and vroom vroom jet engine

 

[JeremyBX2200]

Also found in article BX2200 starter click click -
remove bar across glow plugs and measure resistance to ground with voltmeter
I just did mine and they all read about 2 ohms - if they are bad the usually read open or short
If they test all about same put bar back in and connect wire
Put voltmeter on dc volts and measure your battery voltage should be around 12.5 vdc
If this is good pot your voltmeter on volts dc and connect between gnd on glow plugs - turn key to glow plug on and read voltage - when mine failed they read 8.3 vdc - after fixing resistive pto switches - 30 amp fuse holder - replacing cracked positive battery cable the voltage was 10.55 vdc and vroom vroom jet engine

Thanks. When I first got the BX last spring I had an issue with the starter just clicking when the key was turned from time to time. It would always start great when I would jump the starter. I went ahead and added a relay that bypasses all the resistance areas that cause the voltage drop. Since then it starts with the turn of a key. So far it has been starting well with an 8-10 second glow. This is with tempt in the 10*-20*F range and the tractor sitting for days between starts.

 

[whitetiger]

Glow plug resistance, Factory spec. = Approx. 0.9 Ω
See attached pdf for WSM information.