canada insurance and borders

[NHSleddog]

Re: Safety shields

Troverman, for a law-and-order advocate such as yourself to champion an idea of annexing another country is bizarre.

The people coming to our borders are two types: Those whom you refer to as “illegal”... meaning people who come here to work without permits (but whom you confuse with a wholly-misinformed opinion they’re not here to work)... and those who come here quite ready-and-willing to make application for admission ... but who are being separated from their children (talk about “illegal”..and THAT illegal activity is OURs via our administration, those people being illegally forced back across the border into crowded and dangerous and unhealthy camps. It is US who are failing to comply with our own laws regarding immigration, instead implementing ad hoc policy.
You are displaying ignorance of the situation when you blame democrats for all the ills you imagine, this is a republican administration in action. But we are waay off topic. My apologies. I’m finished with this.
Kind regards.

"...those people being illegally forced back across the border"

Wow just WOW. SMH

No point in trying to discuss anything when the reality just won't be seen.

Mexicans and Canadians are the ONLY nationalities that should be applying for asylum AT OUR BORDERS. That is APPLYING for asylum, not jumping the border. All others are supposed to apply at their own bordering country. That is the law. It was the law under Obama, it is still the law under Trump.

Watch Immigration gumballs on Youtube and give me your honest opinion. I would really like to hear what you think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Keep in mind that video was made 10 years ago. IMO - I think most liberals are really bad at math.

 

[GeoHorn]

Re: Safety shields

"...those people being illegally forced back across the border"

Wow just WOW. SMH

No point in trying to discuss anything when the reality just won't be seen.

Mexicans and Canadians are the ONLY nationalities that should be applying for asylum AT OUR BORDERS. That is APPLYING for asylum, not jumping the border. All others are supposed to apply at their own bordering country. That is the law. It was the law under Obama, it is still the law under Trump.

Watch Immigration gumballs on Youtube and give me your honest opinion. I would really like to hear what you think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Keep in mind that video was made 10 years ago. IMO - I think most liberals are really bad at math.

Yes, I believe OUR laws provide for alien arrivals to be hosted until their applications are ruled upon. If they arrive and are unworthy of consideration under law, then they are to be returned to their country of origin under UN agreement. While forcing them back across the border into Mexico might create pressure on Mexico to assist in regulating migration, the traversing of Mexico by foreign nationals is not illegal under Mexican law, so the illegal activity is OUR ejecting them across OUR borders into Mexico.

Only Mexicans and Canadians allowed to apply at our borders? Then how did European ancestors get here if they didn’t already cross our borders?

The hatred and suspicion of foreigners is unwarranted and un-Christian.
YOU don’t know these individuals. You rely upon your gov’t to take care of them. That’s why there are laws which allow for immigration and refuge. We should either insist that those laws are followed or we should lobby for those laws to be changed.

Wow...can a moderator move this topic to the appropriate area? Thx

 

[SidecarFlip]

Re: Safety shields

I just did...FYI.

 

[coachgeo]

Moved to this new location in offtopic forum. thanks Sideflip for bring it to my attention

 

[NHSleddog]

Re: Safety shields

Yes, I believe OUR laws provide for alien arrivals to be hosted until their applications are ruled upon. If they arrive and are unworthy of consideration under law, then they are to be returned to their country of origin under UN agreement. While forcing them back across the border into Mexico might create pressure on Mexico to assist in regulating migration, the traversing of Mexico by foreign nationals is not illegal under Mexican law, so the illegal activity is OUR ejecting them across OUR borders into Mexico.

Only Mexicans and Canadians allowed to apply at our borders? Then how did European ancestors get here if they didn’t already cross our borders?

The hatred and suspicion of foreigners is unwarranted and un-Christian.
YOU don’t know these individuals. You rely upon your gov’t to take care of them. That’s why there are laws which allow for immigration and refuge. We should either insist that those laws are followed or we should lobby for those laws to be changed.

Wow...can a moderator move this topic to the appropriate area? Thx

So you don't understand the laws very well. That is fine. I have no hatred for anyone.

Being law abiding is very Christian like. What church do you go to?

Did you watch that video? Any comment?

 

[BigG]

GeoHorn

Can you take in every poor abused person in your hometown and provide them with food and shelter? Why not? It would be the Christian thing to do. What you can not feed them all? You only have a few bedrooms and can not house them all?

Why is this country any different? We can not take in every body that shows up on the boarder. There are limits to this country just as there are limits to how much you can give.

Thousands and thousands of people unwilling to assimilate to the rules and laws of this country are not welcome.

Go to Miami as a white non spanish speaking person and get a feel for what it is like to be unwelcomed in your own country. I have been refused service in several lunch counters because I am the wrong color and ethnic background. But that is the part of town my work takes me to.

Do not think that the all the people that cross the boarder are good people? Many you would not want as your neighbor. And they claim to be Christian also.

 

[GeoHorn]

Sleddog, yes, I watched it. It’s quite a graphic presentation... based upon a notion that is incorrect. I don’t know anyone who thinks our immigration system is intended to cure world poverty. Nor do I know that the millions the gumballs purport to represent intend to immigrate here, or even want to. Mr. Beck’s presentation is intended to emphasize his bias, not to be entirely factual.

Big G, I see your point. For you, it’s a race problem. And that makes it my problem also. Your msg implies you are a white person. That means you’re in deep trouble if you live much longer because you are soon a minority. You’ll do better in the future as a white person if you fight racism instead of committing to it.

You guys can spend more energy on this subject if you like. I won’t. Sincere best regards.

 

[NHSleddog]

Sleddog, yes, I watched it. It***8217;s quite a graphic presentation... based upon a notion that is incorrect. I don***8217;t know anyone who thinks our immigration system is intended to cure world poverty. Nor do I know that the millions the gumballs purport to represent intend to immigrate here, or even want to. Mr. Beck***8217;s presentation is intended to emphasize his bias, not to be entirely factual.

Big G, I see your point. For you, it***8217;s a race problem. And that makes it my problem also. Your msg implies you are a white person. That means you***8217;re in deep trouble if you live much longer because you are soon a minority. You***8217;ll do better in the future as a white person if you fight racism instead of committing to it.

You guys can spend more energy on this subject if you like. I won***8217;t. Sincere best regards.

I think you missed my whole point. Letting all these illegals overrun our border isn't helping many of them at all and it is hurting a LOT of us. If you actually cared about helping them, you would push to help them where they are, and not have them illegally enter America. THAT WAS JUST LEGAL IMMIGRATION in that video he was talking about.

It was a very visual presentation of a math problem. No bias in numbers.

I honestly didn't expect you to comment on the video, I thought you would just run along. As soon as someones argument falls apart they tend to disappear or give the old (fingers in ears) "I don't want to talk about it anymore".

Immigration should be used as a tool for America and it's needs, period.

Take all the money given to illegals and set up clean water and sanitation in one of these countries and actually help tens of millions of people, not just the lucky few that stole their way into the country. That is if you actually wanted to help them.

Big G didn't point out a race problem, he pointed out an assimilation problem. If you don't want to come to America to be American, you should stay in the country that suits you. If you want to be a Mexican, there is an entire country devoted to it, and on and on and on.

You are right though, if your whole argument revolves around illegals are good, and laws bad - then there is no need to discuss it.