Improvements for a Perfect BX ...?...

[miketrock]

It just occurred to me ***8230; wouldn't it make BX's perfect if they had hydraulic pumps like the B series (dual and with position control) and make the rear axle 4" wider (2" out each side) (for better stability, less tipsy)?? just a thought ***8230;

 

[SDT]

It just occurred to me ***8230; wouldn't it make BX's perfect if they had hydraulic pumps like the B series (dual and with position control) and make the rear axle 4" wider (2" out each side) (for better stability, less tipsy)?? just a thought ***8230;

Position control would certainly help.

I expect to see it the next time the BXs are refreshed as JD has had it on their competing 1025R for several years and MF has always had it.

Lack of position control is an absolute show stopper for me.

SDT

 

[RonBoyBX25D]

Position control would improve the BX a lot. I upgraded to a B this last fall and didn’t realize what I was missing, the wider axle would also be a plus.

 

[dlundblad]

What exactly is position control?

 

[GreensvilleJay]

Shorter ROPS so you can drive into regular 'car' garage....
Armrest plus that DON'T fall out...
KENDA tires up front...

 

[SDT]

Position control would improve the BX a lot. I upgraded to a B this last fall and didn’t realize what I was missing, the wider axle would also be a plus.

Position control is kind of like a remote control TV, microwave oven or cell phone. If you've never had one, you don't miss it but once you have, you cannot understand how you could have gotten along without it.

SDT

 

[SDT]

What exactly is position control?

Position control is a closed loop system incorporating a feed back mechanism that senses the position of the lift arms allowing the system to return the lift arms to the same position each time the control handle is returned to a specific position in the quadrant. Though not certain, I believe that your 2501 has this system.

The BX series uses an open loop quarter inching valve system without feedback to sense lift arm position. Accordingly, there is no way to return the lift arms to a specific position (aside from full up or full down) without visually monitoring.

SDT

 

[beex]

If they give it position control, more hydraulic flow, and wider axel, then isn’t it a B with small tires?

I would add split brakes too, then it really is a B.

If Kubota would weld 2 3 cylinder blocks together and make an I6 in a SCUT, that would be unique. Tune it down to 25hp and go with no DPF. I would buy one. An I6 is perfectly balanced and has overlapping power strokes, no vibration even at low RPMs


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[SDT]

If they give it position control, more hydraulic flow, and wider axel, then isn’t it a B with small tires?

I would add split brakes too, then it really is a B.

If Kubota would weld 2 3 cylinder blocks together and make an I6 in a SCUT, that would be unique. Tune it down to 25hp and go with no DPF. I would buy one. An I6 is perfectly balanced and has overlapping power strokes, no vibration even at low RPMs


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It would also be a foot or so longer and much more expensive.

The BX is, after all, a SCUT.

SDT

 

[skeets]

Having a perfect BX is like having a perfect Harley, never gona happen, there are to many things to play with, to many toys to add,,and i have never seen a honda tatoo

 

[GeoHorn]

If Kubota would weld 2 3 cylinder blocks together and make an I6 in a SCUT, that would be unique. Tune it down to 25hp and go with no DPF. I would buy one. An I6 is perfectly balanced and has overlapping power strokes, no vibration even at low RPMs


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That explains their use of a 5-cyl engine in the M series also.

 

[lugbolt]

A 6 cylinder is not perfectly balanced. It is in the first order but that's it. There is a whole engineering subject on that topic which I won't get into.

A 3 cyl is MUCH cheaper to manufacture, and it runs fine for their intended purpose. Intended purpose is small equipment that employs some compromises for the end result of lower cost, shorter hood line, MUCH better visibility, quiet operation, and acceptable power output to name a few.

I used to have a hobby 4440 JD, 6 cyl, you couldn't see anything that was closer than 20' in front of the hood. No loader, just tractor. A lot of the old Deere's were 6 cylinder. Yeah they were smooth running but you gave up a lot. That's one reason Kubota's M7's were just 4 cylinder engines. The M8 is a 6 and obviously quite a bit larger physically.

 

[hodge]

A 6 cylinder is not perfectly balanced. It is in the first order but that's it. There is a whole engineering subject on that topic which I won't get into.

A 3 cyl is MUCH cheaper to manufacture, and it runs fine for their intended purpose. Intended purpose is small equipment that employs some compromises for the end result of lower cost, shorter hood line, MUCH better visibility, quiet operation, and acceptable power output to name a few.

I used to have a hobby 4440 JD, 6 cyl, you couldn't see anything that was closer than 20' in front of the hood. No loader, just tractor. A lot of the old Deere's were 6 cylinder. Yeah they were smooth running but you gave up a lot. That's one reason Kubota's M7's were just 4 cylinder engines. The M8 is a 6 and obviously quite a bit larger physically.

The M8 is a 6.7L Cummins inline 6. Cool.

 

[SDT]

The M8 is a 6.7L Cummins inline 6. Cool.

Word is that Kubota will replace that when their new 6 cylinder engine is ready in a couple of years.

SDT

 

[beex]

first order balance is good enough


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[beex]

actually, this site says an inline 6 is balanced in second order too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-six_engine



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[Ping]

Ability to add a factory hoe like the B's, L's & M's would be nice.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

1000% sure fire improvement for a BX...
Buy an L!

 

[beex]

they need to make a mini L so it fits in my garage


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[North Idaho Wolfman]

they need to make a mini L so it fits in my garage


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Just put smaller tires on it!