Re: Man Made Global COOLING?!
D2 the biggest problem is not usually the scientists, but those people who "interpret" glorify, and embellish their data.
Actually, the problem are LIES told to us rather than truths. This makes it hard to decipher whats real and whats a lie.
I believe you guys just said the same thing, but differently, and I don't disagree with either of you.
I try to stay out of this whole conversation myself, because I honestly don't know what's real. My education focused on our natural environment. I'm pretty good at processing environmental data, but like both sheep and motionclone said; I don't know what the REAL data is....
As a forester, I know in the northeast you can almost easily see poor tree growth (via small growth rings when cut down) in the 1960's due to high temperatures and drought.
The Earth has gone through many cyclic climate variations, sometimes attributed catastrophic events such as volcanic or asteroid activity, in theory. I don't recall a specific/known cause for the most recent Ice-age, which was just 10-15,000 years ago (I think?).
What I tend to watch more than anything is the mean sea level. Flooding in Venice Italy was just on TV. Mean sea levels are consistently recorded as increasing throughout the world. Certainly REAL, objective data.
Many experts will couple that with "other" data to twist their theories for/against the climate change argument.
Where I have a problem is whether this is man-made, a natural cycle, or a combination of both??
My other problem is that my Empire State is implementing Energy-related legislation that I can see crippling the state as a viable place to live, work, or generate a viable economy in the next generation. Who's data are those legislators using??
