Best to ignore some people

al m

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Was tough getting the tractor going again yesterday,and tractor was down on power(have had fuel issues)so after getting the snow cleaned up here,I topped up the tank again and headed over to a elderly neighbor and cleaned up her drive. Man is she a cranky old girl,played foreman the entire time,not a thank you. On the way back home did my lazy neighbors drive,had a audience peaking out the windows,no one even came out to move there vehicles.Only conversations I've ever had with these people in the year the have been there( moved from the city) is my original welcome to the neighbourhood and the multiple time I've brought there dog home( now I just tie it back up)
Good news,I've worked out most of the fuel from a couple weeks ago,power is much better
 
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You’re a good person for putting up with all that and still being so generous with your neighbors.
 

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This is why I don't want to do driveways any more. Got one retired neighbour that asked if I could do their driveway and keep track of how many times and they will pay me. Haven't seen them.
Did another after a bad storm, which I was doing for free just to be a nice neighbour, and not even a thank you.
Now I'll just wear my tractor out in my own yard, and one friend across the road.
 

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Was tough getting the tractor going again yesterday,and tractor was down on power(have had fuel issues)so after getting the snow cleaned up here,I topped up the tank again and headed over to a elderly neighbor and cleaned up her drive. Man is she a cranky old girl,played foreman the entire time,not a thank you. On the way back home did my lazy neighbors drive,had a audience peaking out the windows,no one even came out to move there vehicles.Only conversations I've ever had with these people in the year the have been there( moved from the city) is my original welcome to the neighbourhood and the multiple time I've brought there dog home( now I just tie it back up)
Good news,I've worked out most of the fuel from a couple weeks ago,power is much better
Been there, done that about 5 years ago!!!

Had my ol 53 Ford - 6' scraper blade - we had a hellva snow (rare here)
With AG 2WD - that tractor was beast...... the city plow basically plowed all the cars into a locked grid that were parked on the street. A nice lade asked me to help her - did so, she asked what I owed her, I told her what she thought - asked if $10 would do, I said sure. And headed back down the street. Another man asked me to help him, finished that job - then he proceeds to tell me that he will drop the 10 spot down to my house.......it has been 5 years.....shall I charge interest??:D:)

The older couple have a rather steep driveway, I would plow their's every snow - they never asked me! BUT always thanked me, with food or something else. One time he bought my wife a very nice bird feeder for my plowing......I looked at her, when did YOU plow their driveway???? The fact that they thanked me was always enough! AND that is true with all the light work I do for others.

Simple appreciation is a missing quality these days in my book.
 

al m

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Maybe I was being selfish,I just wanted to burn some fuel,lol
Honestly,I've always known the old girl was cranky,and of limited mental capacity.she very indipendand,a sorta cat lady.She prefers to shovel her self,but I knew she was overwhelmed,and she is really getting up there in years.I leave all my pop and wine bottles and beer cans at the end of my lane for her,she never says anything,but always visits my dogs,and has a treat for them.
The city people do leave me alone,don't bother me when I'm cutting wood or having a Bon fire,I like that.the ones before them complained often,although I never cut on Sudays,before 10 ,and always have a burn permit.
 

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I try to the neighborly thing! But it's getting disappointing that you don't even get a thank you! :mad: I spent a $1000 on a dual stage snowblower. One neighbor does one side walk if I don't beat him to it, he also shares his vegetables out of his garden:)

Pat
 

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Al, I think you have noticed the key thing about your neighbor lady. I have reached the age where many of my friends are also crotchety little old ladies, and one of the features I've noticed is if your are fiercely independent, it is so embarassing to need help, that it is hard to be appropriately thankful when someone does help you. Two of us were helping someone who was developing some kind of dementia, and she never said thank you when I took her to Drs appointments. I think she really hated it that she couldn't drive herself any more.
 

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My wife gets a little frustrated sometimes because she says I always help others and no one ever helps me (except Dan). She's correct, but I don't ask for help and I think others either don't have the gift of giving or just figure you're (me) too independent for them to offer.

If I've done favors for someone for a long time and don't get any response, I often do something to just "play" with them. Like leave a nice pile of snow right outside the door of their truck (or workshop) so they have to shovel something just to get in. If they choose to not shovel they have to contact me to ask why I didn't clean there, or if I could move it. Just a game I play.

I have one neighbor that is more then generous. I offered to trench a line at the base of his pond to help keep water off his lane. When we were done his wife tried to hand me some bills folded up as thanks. I told her "Thanks, but I won't take. I offered to help and you can not pay me."

Well, a few days latter I found out she had brought down a package of meat they had just picked up at the processor. Her husband is the guy who pulled my trencher out of the muck with his M9540. We help each other all the time. And I think Dan enjoys me kidding him about going back to the auction to pay for the second half of his tractor. He bought his M9540HSTC last summer for 19K.

You just can't let the ones who frustrate you control your life!
 

al m

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Hope no one has taken what I have said wrong, it was my decision to do what I did,will most likely do the same again. Like I said,it best just to ignore some things. I have been help from others with no way of helping them,I see it as a sort of cycle,pay it forward by helping who you can,and hopefully if I am ever truely in need,help will be there..
Having said that,strangers have helped me on this forum,so there you go
 

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Sometimes it's just the good feeling you get inside that makes me do it but a thank you would be nice. I understand what your saying sheepfarmer and yes it is tough when you've been independent all your life but the time comes when you just can't do it anymore but that's why good people like yourself and the good people on this forum are there to help whether they thank you or not.
 

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I was told a long time ago by a cranky old fart when I plowed out his driveway with my old jeep. He came out and yelled I aint gona pay you cause I didnt ask you to do that. I told him not to worry I was playin in the snow any way and figured it would be my good deed for the day. He looked perplexed and said..Son remember no good deed goes unpunished ....
He was right, the transfer case somehow cracked on my way back to the barn
 

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I look after the snow in my yard with a BX24 and a front snowblower. It does a fine job! A few years ago a "good" Samaritan came roaring in here with his big tractor and plow and created frozen snowbanks that I had to fight with for the rest of the season! I have fun blowing snow to but I never assume everyone will be pleased if I just merrily cruise in. Just ask first, it is the courteous thing to do!
 

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My dad's old friend used to plow driveways with a jeep. He had a list of good regular customers that paid him on invoice. After one particularly bad snow storm with lots of drifting, he was plowing a customer's drive and a neighbor lady was persistently waving at him from her porch. He stopped and she begged him to plow hers. He told her he had to do his regular customers first but she nagged and insisted he was right there and could do hers. He caved in and then she asked him how much. He told her his usual fee was $25 dollars. She whined that she was a poor widow on fixed income and could only afford 5 dollars. He finally agreed just so he could be on his way. He said he backed up and dropped his blade but got stopped at a big tough drift. Backed up and hit it again and her outside central air compressor popped up over the blade.
When he went up to the porch to tell her what happened she had an absolute fit and said of course he had to pay for a new one.
He decided that was his last charity snow plow.
 

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This is probably the last year I will be plowing snow for anyone else paid or not.
It takes too much of my time, to high of risk, to many complaint, and too much wear and tear on my equipment.

I've had so many complaints about when I do it, how I do it, and not a single thank you, it's gotten old.
I'm the only one with equipment to do it on our private road and everyone has just figured I'll do it for them. :(
 

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Yup, people expect and do not appreciate work a lot of times. It amazes me.
Last year, I spent two days on the private road. Five double tandems of gravel. Told people months in advance. Only half the people paid. When I asked the rest (all had plenty of money) they complained. That was it. A year later, the road looks like hell, the bushes are over grown, people (the very ones who did not want to pay) why I have not done anything about it. I told them it was their turn.....:p
 

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I have a collection of antique Massey Harris tractors so have a few and I like to work them some and not a lot I can do on my place.

The build a big house south of me, next thing I know a old fellow stops while I am mowing my front yard and ask if I know any one who will work at smothing his front yard and plant grass seed. I sure do I tell him and he asked if I knew what the guy charged and I said 10 gallons of gas.
I go down there with my model 30 and a disk harrow and work that rutted up area real well but it was still lump and bump not to my liking so I go back home and get the 53 Mustang with the back blade and get it smoth to my liking and then disked it over one more time.

I returned with my model 22 and the grain drill with the seeder on it. Seeded the grass seed he had bought and rolled it in at the same time.

We had went to town or some place later in the week and return home and in front of the garage sat 2 5 gallon cans of gas more, and a fruit basket.

Winter came and I plow our drive with the Mustang & back blade, run down to Gorges place and plow his drive and return home. Few days later he stops at the house and has a gift basket with fruit and 4 bottles of wine.

Then he got to calling me when his lawn mower wouldn't start and other things like doctoring his horse. He kept wanting to pay me for every little thing I did, I finally told him if he wante dto pay to get stuff done that there were handy men in the county to call and repair shops also.

I got all his horse manure for my garden for free, My kids 14 and 11 knew if some one broke in the house to run to Georges.


Then they built a house across the road from me, that contractor did all work of building and putting in the lawn. One day I am out cutting brush from my ditch and the guy comes up with about a 8 year old boy. He says he noticed i have a lot of old tractors I use around the place and wondered if I would show them to his grand son.
took him around and showed the tractors and talked about them power and things, showed the equipement I had and all that.
That winter we got a really back snow storm and i saw they had gotten stuck in their drive way and too some one came with a tractor and got them out and ploweed the drive way. Got to talking later and the tractor guy charged 50.00 to get them out and plow the drive. I told him I would do the drive for gas. 5 gallons would be fine.

he got really sick and I never saw him again after that but I plowed the drive just the same. He passed away about a year later. Kare and I went to the funeral. His wife said in the winter he seemed to always perk up when he would hear the tractor plowing snow. He would ask, is that Al plowing rhe snow.

George sold the horse farm, gave me the Allis D 17 he bought and I mounted a front loader on for him and made it so the snapcupler could use a back blade.
He is in a nurseing home and I go visit every so offten and he has got so bad If I go a week he doesn't rember who I am.

Stan died about a year after showing rthe grand son the tractors (he is a collector now too.) and his wife just passed about 18 months ago.

I did it to play with the tractors, I didn't want pay unless they offered then I asked for gasoline. I don't even need thanks I am happy to play with my tractors.


:D Al
 

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I bought my house when i was 24, 10 years ago now. It's an aging neighborhood, by far the youngest guy on the block. Lots are a healthy 2 acres, so it's not to crowded. Neighbors have always been pretty friendly, though. We see each other and wave as we drive by.

Anyway, neighbor directly across the street from me was roughly 70 at the time. It was my first winter in the house, and first snow storm, overnight from saturday until sunday. Sunday there was a solid foot of snow on the ground. My driveway is about 80', his driveway is about 300'.

Sunday morning fresh snow, worked all week, it's my day off, i was sleeping in without a care in the world. I was woken up at 7:30am by the 70 year old man dressed in his coveralls, hood, and ski goggles pushing his snowblower clearing my driveway. His was already done. Talk about humiliating, a young in good shape guy laying in bed having his driveway cleared by an elderly man.

I only had the walk behind snowblower at that point, my tractor was a cub lowboy 154. So each snow I'd race out to clear the driveway. I bought a little MTD with plow, had chains, manual belt driven trans, and was pretty unstoppable. Looked like hell but it was quick and did hte job for anything under 6" in top gear. I'd start that thing up and would fly. Picked up another neighbor, little old lady and her adult daughter. They were greatful, offered to pay, but I'd always decline, that little tractor was fun.

The next fall I decided to pick up something different. Wanted a front mounted snowblower. Found a new holland s14 with front blower and plow. I picked that thing up and before it ever snowed I built a cab for it. People called me crazy. it was plywood and plexiglass, with shingles on the roof. Extremely heavy, but it kept me out of the wind. Had a radio and cup holder and flood lights. I was having a blast. Front mount blower was easy to swap in 10 minutes or less with the blade. It was a goofy looking machine but it worked. I had no idea what i was doing at the time. Looking back at pictures, it was hilarious.

When the first snow hit I was prepared! 44" single stage snowthrower made quick work of it, then on to the 70ish neighbor's driveway. Long strait shot, it ran flawless. Made quick work of his driveway, and on to the next. It was great, couldn't be happier. Just a little top heavy, only mounted to the fiberglass frame.

Fast forward 8 years later, never a problem, just greatful neighbors who would bring me coffee or danishes, little things to show their appreciation. Tractor kept on running, and every winter we got dumped on repeatively. Sometimes 3+ feet, and that machine would handle it. The only time it would struggle is deep snow where it didn't already clear, it would run it over and didn't weigh enough to mash it down. Solid ice though it didn't care.

Went through a few summer mowers though. Lowboy was a bit high for some low tree's and I kept wacking my head. Sold it and bought a used craftman. it died and a friend gave me his old white if i could fix it. Fixed it, then a year later the block cracked. Brother in law didn't add oil to his new craftsman mower and threw a rod, so i took it and tossed a craigslist engine in, and it was great, for 2 years until the bearings on the deck went. Fixed, then the hydro trans went. Got an old simplicity, mowed a year, then the block cracked and dumped oil.

Then I bought my kubota b8200, and a 60" rear finishing deck. Such excitement. Then my father, who has a b7200, says see if I can get his snowblower on my tractor, since he has a loader and will never use the blower. I managed to make it work. If I was going to have a blower, I was going to have a cab.

Started in the fall working on a cab for it. This one went much slower, though. Someone saw that I wasn't ready for snow that winter, and coincidentally we didn't get any. I mean less than an inch cumulative for the year. I worked through the winter on the cab, and spring, took a break for summer, picked it up again in the fall, and now I'm ready.

We've had a 4" snowfall, which is nothing to the kubota. But it was good to test everything out on. Got my neighbors as well, they were impressed with the new tractor, or at least said so to make me feel better.

It's a shame some have bad luck with neighbors, but they aren't all bad.