Diesel cold flow improver comparisons

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I'm trying to find the best (lowest temperature) cold flow additive. Some (eg: Howes) claim to lower the CFPP up to 20°F, some as much as 30°F (Peak), some even as much as 40° (Stanadyne, Amsoil) -- "depending on base fuel" as Stanadyne states in the fine print. Power Service doesn't provide any number, they just claim their product will prevent gelling period.

Does anyone know of any independent studies or tests that compares the various products against each other using a common base fuel?

Alternatively (or perhaps in addition to), has anyone tried an electric heater alternative on a plastic Kubota tank, such as a livestock watering heater or a battery blanket?
 
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I can't speak for the others but I personally use Amsoil conditioner. I have used it for 10 or more years and have never had a fuel related issue. And just to add I use at least one tractor every day during the winter.
 

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I'm trying to find the best (lowest temperature) cold flow additive. Some (eg: Howes) claim to lower the CFPP up to 20°F, some as much as 30°F (Peak), some even as much as 40° (Stanadyne, Amsoil) -- "depending on base fuel" as Stanadyne states in the fine print. Power Service doesn't provide any number, they just claim their product will prevent gelling period.

Does anyone know of any independent studies or tests that compares the various products against each other using a common base fuel?

Alternatively (or perhaps in addition to), has anyone tried an electric heater alternative on a plastic Kubota tank, such as a livestock watering heater or a battery blanket?
Torch
Was thinking of you today when I drove past a completely burned up combine.
A hydraulic line split and sprayed hot hydraulic oil over the engine which caught fire. Likely no fire extinguisher on board or the fire was too widespread for a small extinguisher to deal with.

My fuel solution is a simple one for my situation. Living in Ontario like you do, I order a coloured diesel fuel grade called -40 for my bulk tank. I place my order in late November when this grade is available.

It has a small premium in price but I use this fuel year round. I think the premium is about 6 cents per litre.

After one scary situation with gelling suddenly happening on a dark rural public road, I made this switch and never regretted it.

Never have to use any additive. Checked with supplier re sulphur content and Kubota's requirements and this fuel exceeds them.

Gelling can happen anywhere in the fuel system. Within the engine compartment, there is lots of cold air blowing around and this increases the likelihood of gelling. Trying to operate with a warm tank of fuel would prove to be expensive and perhaps even a fire risk.

A long time ago I had an oil furnace in an open shop which sent the warm air to an enclosed shop. The fuel line and filter between the main tank and the burner would gell up and then no heat.

I used a water pipe heat tracer with its own thermostat and wrapped it around the filter and taped it to the copper fuel line. I had no money to do anything better.

Dave
 

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Thanks all.

I have been using Amsoil's cold flow additive -- primarily because a case of it came with the tractor -- with only a vague understanding of issues such as the difference between "filter icing" and water contamination. I was inspired to learn more the other day when temperatures dropped below freezing and the tractor stalled within a few seconds of starting. Long story short: I had to remove the fuel tank and line and thaw out the ice plug preventing fuel flow. Replaced the filter while I was at it, although there was no ice there. Found another chunk of ice in the bottom of the treated jerry can and started researching.

That's when I learned that cold flow is a different issue and "filter icing" has nothing to do with water contamination. But, that's also when I noticed the lack of solid data behind additive manufacturer's claims. While there is a wide array of supposed brand comparisons out there on the internet, 99.9% of them seem to be repeating company advertising literature with no real independent research.

Around here, the temperature usually drops below -40° a few times each winter, so I want to make sure the fuel is protected. But I am starting to believe that cold flow improvers are only potentially useful when added to a summer grade of #2 diesel and that (as Dave suggests) there is no real room for improvement beyond what the refinery already does to produce a winter grade.

As for my original water contamination problem, I have been using a product called "Water Worm" (made by H2O Control Products in Sudbury) in my home heating oil tank for years now. It's a mechanical solution -- a long cotton sock containing a desiccant that absorbs and traps any water contamination in the fuel. I wrote them and they do make a miniature version suitable for use in the tractor's fuel tank. I think that is more suitable in a tank were the fuel line connection is off the bottom where the water collects compared to a chemical that precipitates the moisture out of the fuel. For now, I decanted the remaining fuel from the jerry can, cleaned out the ice chunk and replaced all the fuel with fresh.

As for the hydraulic fluid fire Dave came across: hydraulic fluid is typically considered combustible rather than flammable -- that is, the auto-ignition temperature is fairly high, on the order of 500° or 600°F. But that's in the reservoir; it is well documented that things change when a pressurized oil mist is sprayed out of a leak. In that case it is easily ignited in a ball of flame resembling a gasoline explosion and the film of hot oil coating everything will continue to sustain combustion. Even if you have an extinguisher, it can be difficult to extinguish, especially if it's still under pressure.

If you do experience a fire, shut the tractor off on your way out. If you have an extinguisher (class ABC dry chemical), you can try to fight it, but remember that the extinguisher will only last 30 or 40 seconds. Use the acronym P.A.S.S.:

Pull the pin.
Aim at the BASE of the fire from about 5' to 8' away
Squeeze the handle.
Sweep from side to side, coating everything with the chemical.

Aiming at the base of the fire is real important: you have to hit the thing that is burning, not the flames above it. That will be difficult on a tractor with loader arms, hoods etc. obstructing access. You are facing long odds with a small hand-held extinguisher and a big leak.

The best way to fight the fire is prevention. Inspect for leaks and potential leaks like chaffed lines regularly and replace them as necessary rather than dismissing them as minor with the thought of getting to them later. Same with wiring.

Sorry, I seem to have hopped up on a soapbox here and wandered wayyy off topic. I'll get down now...
 

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Thanks Dave and Torch for detailed information, I had found the same difficulty in getting good data when I looked for information on tne biocides. The commercial additive packages are a hodge podge of ingredients that do different things. I looked again for data on the cold weather question because you never know what the local gas station has in the fall, whether the mix is winter blend etc. but no luck. I did run into this article which has some useful information in it.


!Diesel Fuel Additives - University of Alaska Fairbanks
PDFUniversity of Alaska Fairbanks › acep

For some reason pdf links don't seem to copy right so if you google "fuel additives Alaska"

it will be at the top of the list.

This year I will add the Kubota brand to try, and because I know the big 3560 tank is full of summer diesel and it is getting cold here.
 

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The other thought I had when I read baronet's link was that some of these devices sounded a little like the cold weather kit Kubota was installing on some of the newer tractors working in cold climates. I have the impression that these heated lines are all on the exhaust side, but wonder if any of the parts and ideas could be borrowed for your tractor?
 

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Are "winter blend" diesel and/or No. 1 diesel not available? it seems that would be the easiest answer.

I use Power Service in my pickup and plan to use it in my tractor.
Silver bottle - summer

White bottle - winter
 

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For some reason pdf links don't seem to copy right so if you google "fuel additives Alaska"
Let's try that link this way: This PDF document

Another interesting read, that included biodiesel blends, was this one.

The long and the short of it:

There are at least 6 different grades of diesel, not counting biodiesel blends. Cold flow improvers need to be a reasonable match for the molecular structure of the specific fuel they are added to; ie: there is NO one-size-fits-all cold flow improver. The improver should be hot-blended for maximum effectiveness -- for most of us, that means at the refinery.

There are Over 4,000 diesel fuel additives are registered with the EPA by 686 different companies but " A handful of large additive companies employ hundreds of people dedicated to developing fuel and lubricant additives, while other companies consist of a few individuals striving to make one product successful, or one product might be marketed under multiple brand names" (emphasis added)

Adding an appropriate cold flow improver can lower the pour point of a poor fuel, but only to a point. Adding more does not lower the pour point any further.

Are "winter blend" diesel and/or No. 1 diesel not available? it seems that would be the easiest answer.
That seems to be the best option and I'm certain that at some point the local suppliers switch over to something more suitable for our winters. However, have you tried asking the high school kid in the kiosk what's in the tank? I have no idea when they switched or how much summer grade fuel was left to dilute the mix.

I use Power Service in my pickup and plan to use it in my tractor.
PS is certainly very popular, sold in major retail outlets all over the continent, and have been around since forever. But I was surprised to find they don't publish any actual, factual, data about their products. They make an unconditional claim that their cold flow improver "prevents fuel gelling", period. They also claim it is "effective on all diesel fuels". Everybody else at least qualifies their claims with language like "by as much as XX°F" or "depending on fuel stock".

Reading the "Power Service Story" makes me wonder if they fall into the "handful of large additive companies" or the "few individuals striving to make one product successful" camp? They are privately held, not publicly traded, so they can keep company details such as the ratio of research scientists to marketing representatives to themselves.
 

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Another issue that comes to mind, and for which I don't have certain answers, is that some additives tout ingredients designed to put any water in the fuel in solution so it can be "burned" along with the diesel in the engine. Others say they have something to pull out the water where it can collect in a water separator.

One of my tractors and my truck has a water separator (high pressure common rail), and the other new tractor doesn't have either. Nickel plated once mentioned the high pressure pump and or the injectors really didn't like water. So different additives for different tractors?


It was interesting to note how close the size of crystals at the cloud point, 0.5 um, is to the pore size of some fuel filters, 1-3um. Wouldn't take much to start clogging.

Thanks torch for posting that second reference.