B2650 ROPS with BH77 - Lose your suspension seat?

[Sjgo1261]

I just bought the B2650 and wanted to start a thread to see If anyone experienced this problem. Is there a better seat if you bought the tractor without the backhoe?

I hope there is solution because I hurt my back when the tractor was going over some rough terrain.

Please let me know your thoughts?


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[Mike.O]

I just bought the B2650 and wanted to start a thread to see If anyone experienced this problem. Is there a better seat if you bought the tractor without the backhoe?

I hope there is solution because I hurt my back when the tractor was going over some rough terrain.

Please let me know your thoughts?


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From what I'm told, yes there is a much better suspension seat with no backhoe. I never even considered I would loose the suspension seat when I bought mine w. BH and of course the sales guy never mentioned it. For me, no biggie, the seat is sufficient. The bigger pain in the ass is spinning it for BH use. I still am not used to that. I've heard of all sorts of seat options, but have not explored any.

 

[beckmurph]

I replaced the B2650 seat springs with springs for a B3200.

I really liked the adjustable seat that came with B2650. But, when the bh77 was installed, the really nice suspension was removed.

This summer I removed the rotating part and reinstalled the suspension part.
I feel like it sits too low now, so I put the rotating
section back in place of the suspension section.

As I looked at the underside of the seat, I could see marks where the rubber bump stops were hitting the bottom of the seat.
So, the B2650 springs are too short or too soft.

Looked up the springs for both the B2650 and the B3200 on Kubota.com parts and compared them.
The weight of the B2650 spring was much lighter than the B3200. There were two springs listed for the B3200. I ordered the heavier one.

I had to modify the larger spring to get it to fit.

I am not sure this is the best solution, but these springs raise the back of the seat and lessens the feeling of sitting in a hole.

For $40.00 it is a fairly cheap, "possible" solution.
[emoji41]



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[Sharryn]

Glad you mentioned this. I bought my B3350 in 2015 without the backhoe. I just got the BH77 four days ago and that's the first thing I noticed. I'm not quite 5' tall so that extra height and leaning back more made a negative difference to my operating comfort. I noticed how much harder the ride is and I'm not too fond of it. I'm 63 and need all the cushion I can get.

After you've used it a little while would you let us know how you like it? I may want do modify it like you did.

 

[Larry0071]

I replaced the B2650 seat springs with springs for a B3200.

I really liked the adjustable seat that came with B2650. But, when the bh77 was installed, the really nice suspension was removed.

This summer I removed the rotating part and reinstalled the suspension part.
I feel like it sits too low now, so I put the rotating
section back in place of the suspension section.

As I looked at the underside of the seat, I could see marks where the rubber bump stops were hitting the bottom of the seat.
So, the B2650 springs are too short or too soft.

Looked up the springs for both the B2650 and the B3200 on Kubota.com parts and compared them.
The weight of the B2650 spring was much lighter than the B3200. There were two springs listed for the B3200. I ordered the heavier one.

I had to modify the larger spring to get it to fit.

I am not sure this is the best solution, but these springs raise the back of the seat and lessens the feeling of sitting in a hole.

For $40.00 it is a fairly cheap, "possible" solution. View attachment 30704
[emoji41]



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How did you modify the springs, I bought the ones you posted the photo of, but they hit the bracket in front of the bolt holes. So my first idea was to add spacers under the springs to lift above that, but it's far to tall and the seat is trying to dump me off the front. I'm not able to see in your photo exactly what you did.

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[beckmurph]

Well, I took grinder and cut the new spring about the height I wanted.

I then put the base of the spring in my vise and squeezed it to gain space so it would sit down on the frame.

I also used my grinder to take some metal off the side of the spring to gain more space.

I also bought longer bolts to mount the spring.

It is sort of a "custom" fit. [emoji12]


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[Tunaslayer]

I am not sure if it works clearance wise, but on my L series, I have a separate seat for the backhoe. I like this for a couple reasons; I can keep the suspension seat, there is no need to rotate the seats when changing operator position, and you are planted on the backhoe frame. You can feel in the seat how the machine is working with a non suspension seat. It does interfere with the ROPS(has to be up) and the driver seat has to be flipped up on the steering wheel, so not perfect by any stretch, just another option to consider.

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[Larry0071]

I am not sure if it works clearance wise, but on my L series, I have a separate seat for the backhoe. I like this for a couple reasons; I can keep the suspension seat, there is no need to rotate the seats when changing operator position, and you are planted on the backhoe frame. You can feel in the seat how the machine is working with a non suspension seat. It does interfere with the ROPS(has to be up) and the driver seat has to be flipped up on the steering wheel, so not perfect by any stretch, just another option to consider.

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I really wish that the B2650 had that dual seat arrangement. That would solve all of my issues and complaints with my new tractor.

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[tempforce]

when i bought my b3350, i reused my bh-77 from my L3200. the bh-77 has it's own seat. with the smaller tractor and a cab. there is a extension kit to move the bh-77 to the rear for clearance.

i don't see why you can't use the bh-77 cab extension, with a b series without a cab.

just saying....

 

[1VaHunter]

when i bought my b3350, i reused my bh-77 from my L3200. the bh-77 has it's own seat. with the smaller tractor and a cab. there is a extension kit to move the bh-77 to the rear for clearance.

i don't see why you can't use the bh-77 cab extension, with a b series without a cab.

just saying....

Seems like this should work by ordering part # BH4973 meant for cab model versus BH4962 for ROPS. Anyone know for sure if it's possible to substitute in order to get the fixed seat in BH4973? I'm with Larry on trying to keep the good seat. Prices are identical, too.

 

[mdhughes]

I have a seat and the mount for a BH77 in the for sale section:
Used BH77 seat and seat support

This is a used seat and mount that came with the used BH77 I bought. A new seat and mount came with the sub-frame for my L3901.

 

[No-Loan Ranger]

I am not sure if it works clearance wise, but on my L series, I have a separate seat for the backhoe. I like this for a couple reasons; I can keep the suspension seat, there is no need to rotate the seats when changing operator position, and you are planted on the backhoe frame. You can feel in the seat how the machine is working with a non suspension seat. It does interfere with the ROPS(has to be up) and the driver seat has to be flipped up on the steering wheel, so not perfect by any stretch, just another option to consider.

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I'd like to add the backhoe seat to my B2650 (ROPS, no extra subframe extension like the cab version has). Does anyone know the part # for the backhoe seat kit (seat, post, and hardware)?

I hate having to rotate the seat.

 

[dirtydeed]

I'd like to add the backhoe seat to my B2650 (ROPS, no extra subframe extension like the cab version has). Does anyone know the part # for the backhoe seat kit (seat, post, and hardware)?

I hate having to rotate the seat.

see here:

KubotaPad

kpad.kubota.com

here's the long way...https://apps.kubotausa.com/illustrated-parts/