How often do You do this....

[D2Cat]

Is it only in America, or do others do this also?

One of the fellow board members torqued off the mounting bolts to his IP which reminded me of this topic.

Tight is good, so tighter must be better! Most everything we do, we almost always have the urge to go just a tad more.

I have to remind myself all the time to "QUIT" now, don't cause more grief! But I am a slow learner.

 

[85Hokie]

reminds me of placing "mud" on sheetrock, I can do it, and can do it ok - IF I can make myself stop when it looks "good" - BUT NO.....I have to place the knife in it ONE more time and @#$#$ it all up!

I have learned to snug and then a wee bit more! There is a fine line (learned from doing it many times wrong) of how tight it should be, and getting it just right.

I friend of my just bought an old 55 chevy four door, the valve cover gaskets were leaking, both of us spoke at the same time about learning as youngins how NOT to over tighten those covers!

 

[bxray]

I need my grunts calibrated once in a while!

Ray

 

[Daren Todd]

I might of done this once or twice

Water pump bolts in an aluminum cover. Only torque to 6 ft/lbs. In other words only use thumb and pinky to operate the 1/4" drive ratchet Using whole hand on ratchet usually leads to lots of cussing and threading the holes from an m6 to a 5/16

 

[kckndrgn]

never, I would never do something like that

 

[Bunker Buster]

If hand tight is good, then impact tight must be better, right?

 

[Lil Foot]

I think everyone has done it sometime. (me too)
I have always had a pretty good feel for such things, but I can't count the number of times I worked on something that someone else has been into & found that all the female threads come out when I remove a bolt or stud. Maybe that's what I get for always buying used stuff.
Oh well, I've installed 10s(maybe 100s) of thousands of HeliCoils, what's a few more?

 

[Daren Todd]

I think everyone has done it sometime. (me too)
I have always had a pretty good feel for such things, but I can't count the number of times I worked on something that someone else has been into & found that all the female threads come out when I remove a bolt or stud. Maybe that's what I get for always buying used stuff.
Oh well, I've installed 10s(maybe 100s) of thousands of HeliCoils, what's a few more?

I just had that happen today. 3 out of the 4 bolt holes had the threads removed...... In cast did Tooljunkies trick with the grease to drill it out. Tapped, and got the heli-coil setting up with some high strength loctite.


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[dandeman]

Thanks to a tire store decades ago, I learned about proper torque aka lug nuts not even finger tight doesn't cut it.. Wheels making a scrapey sprapey sound on the exit clover leaf is not comforting....

When I started doing my own maintenance I bought a good quality torque wrench (clicks when dialed in torque is reached).

It's been a good educator learning what various proper torque setting feel like... I use the hand torque reading for non critical stuff and don't overtighten..

Any thing critical like lug nuts, spark plugs (especially in aluminum cylinder heads) brings out the torque wrench.

Highly recommend buying one as a cure if you are prone to "tighter is better"

 

[cerlawson]

For gosh sakes never do this. I have a step grand son who is slightly mentally handicapped, but a great kid, now19. Strong as an Ox. He was great help I thought as we tore down and later put back together the seat, fender, floor pan, etc. of a BX which had fuel problems, maybe needing tank removal and cleaning. However,determining which way to pull the wrench for removal and replacing bolts took some training. However, one grab bar attached to fender had to have one bolt removed. Putting it back together required re-installing the bolt. That bolt was to thread into an insert factory placed in the non-metal handle, probably by some force. Well, that bolt and insert came off together. It took a lot of epoxy and tender care to get that insert back is and fixed. Future help from him will limit the wrench lengths to about 1/3 or less of the usual. I hate to think of another tear down and probably finding stripped threads. At least no bolts sheared off.

 

[skeets]

I'm glad I never twisted a bolt off,,, coff cofff

 

[sheepfarmer]

I dunno guys, I pretty much don't have that problem, maybe I should get a longer breaker bar

 

[Tooljunkie]

I torque all wheels by hand with a torque wrench. Dorman has a torqe chart for cars and light trucks. Same goes for wheel bearings.

This friend of mine-kinda shrek-like had a skidder. Winch had a hydraulic swivel,3/16"tubing connecting to it. I think he broke 7. Each and every one was too tight and broke. Only guy i know that i think could wreck an anvil.

Breaking bolts, never fun. Extracting them less fun.

Anybody wanna talk about ford spark plugs?

 

[D2Cat]

Sheepfarmer, it may just be a man thing!

I use to do trenching and always worked by myself. I had to figure everything I needed for a job, and have some extra fittings and pipe for situations unplanned for.

One job I was installing a hydrant for a lady at her horse barn. It was a day in the mid 90's. I was connecting to an existing line so I was laying on the ground reaching down in the ditch with all my arm length tightening the nuts on a PVC compression union with a big pliers and a pipe wrench.

Yep, I had it snug, but thought just a bit more and I'll be done!

Busted the fitting and didn't have another one on the truck!!

 

[67Truckin]

The joke in our family is to tighten it up until it twist its off, then back it off a quarter turn. I've gotten really good at drilling out bolts and rethreading holes. Never used a heli-coil before since I tap exact size to the new bolt.

 

[Lil Foot]

The joke in our family is to tighten it up until it twist its off, then back it off a quarter turn.

Must be related to a supervisor I had as a beginning machinist- when I asked how I should determine speeds & feeds, he said "Keep winding it up until it crashes, then back off a little." Smart a$$.

 

[Knott]

I was taught that any fastener, over torqued is already half broken. I have still sheared off a few in my day & a few years ago found this little tool called quick center. It is a great help in removing broken bolts the right way, without bodging up the threads. Here is a link: http://www.quikcenter.com/
I don`t sell them, but I use them.

 

[Mike9]

I've sheered a few off in my younger days, but learning the hard way sticks for life . . . . usually after the third, or fourth one.

knocks on wood . . .

 

[ItBmine]

reminds me of placing "mud" on sheetrock, I can do it, and can do it ok - IF I can make myself stop when it looks "good" - BUT NO.....I have to place the knife in it ONE more time and @#$#$ it all up!

So it's not just me that does that!? LOL.

 

[SeanRaymond]

I used tell an excoworker that he was not smart enough to know when to stop. We never let him tighten anything either it was broken or it was so tight you could not get it apart so we only let him take stuff apart.


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