Borrowing a subsoiler (single tine ripper) with pipe laying attachment

[GaryL]

Hello All.
Curious whether someone local to central Massachusetts has one of the single tine rippers with pipe laying attachments that I could borrow.

Seems like a waste to buy something for 30 minutes of work, but can't find anywhere to rent one. I just want to lay water line and electrical to two small garden areas. I will end up making the pipe layer portion if I have to and buy the subsoiler part. But, would be easier to borrow one if anyone has one. Thanks.

 

[Dave_eng]

Seems like a waste to buy something for 30 minutes of work, but can't find anywhere to rent one. I just want to lay water line and electrical to two small garden areas. I will end up making the pipe layer portion if I have to and buy the subsoiler part. But, would be easier to borrow one if anyone has one. Thanks.

In my rural area most people with equipment refuse to lend it because it often comes back broken. Sometimes they will come and do the job with their equipment as an alternative to be a good neighbor and in that way know there equipment will be used properly. Loaning tools same story.

For example, if the subsoiler hooks unto a big rock and it is connected to a powerful tractor it will be broken

Consider renting a trencher at Home Depot.
Dave M7040

 

[GaryL]

In my rural area most people with equipment refuse to lend it because it often comes back broken. Sometimes they will come and do the job with their equipment as an alternative to be a good neighbor and in that way know there equipment will be used properly. Loaning tools same story.

For example, if the subsoiler hooks unto a big rock and it is connected to a powerful tractor it will be broken

Consider renting a trencher at Home Depot.
Dave M7040

The trenchers at HD are manual drive. You have pull them backwards. I just found one that is hydraulic drive, but what a mess it leaves in the yard. The subsoiler will cut a nice gap, lay the piping and electrical in it and will just need some rolling flat to get it to be as good as new.
This is what it looks like home made when you use PVC to add to a subsoiler to lay pipe.

I will probably just buy a subsoiler and add my own pipe attachment. I just thought I would give my tractor community a shot to borrow something instead. I understand about loaning stuff. I have tools that are my tools. I may help you do something, but I really don't like loaning out my tools.

 

[Dave_eng]

Good idea then I can borrow it from you
Dave M7040

 

[OldeEnglish]

If you bought one and used it for what you need to do, you can always throw it in craigslist and probably get close to what you paid for it.

 

[Jim Barnett]

How deep can you run the wire with that attachment?

 

[GaryL]

If you bought one and used it for what you need to do, you can always throw it in craigslist and probably get close to what you paid for it.

Very true. I do sometimes regret selling something, only to need it once again. But, always an option.

 

[GaryL]

How deep can you run the wire with that attachment?

Supposedly about 10-12". I blow out all my underground lines and then fill with Rv antifreeze, so that should be fine for a water line. It is just to water gardens around the property.

 

[Jim Barnett]

Sounds like a lot of work to winterize. Why not put them below the frost line and use Non-Freeze Hose Bibbs?

 

[D2Cat]

I'd do as Jim suggest. Rent a real trencher from a rental yard and bury the line deep enough you never have to mess with it again.

A gas powered ride on trencher will have flotation tires and not tear up your yard any more then your tractor with a sub soiler. Trench will be <6" wide and you will have a backfill blade to push the crumbs back into the trench.

 

[North Idaho Wolfman]

GaryL,
I think with a BX2200 your going to be working really hard to even get a foot in the ground unless your working in sand, your even likely to tear up the ground just trying to do it.
Also the loop that you shown made out of the PVC is way too tight of a loop, you would need a wider loop to make it work.

 

[bcp]

That tight loop would work with wiring as shown, or garden hose, if that is what you wanted to bury.

If you make one, make it like the first photo.

Bruce

 

[GaryL]

Sounds like a lot of work to winterize. Why not put them below the frost line and use Non-Freeze Hose Bibbs?

Only takes me 5 minutes to blow out each line and back fill with antifreeze. No matter how deep I put the lines, the two ends come to the surface. I have 1,000 gallon rain catchment system from my roof. These tanks are fed to a pump then to 1-1/2" pvc that goes underground over to the gardens. It then comes up to a faucet and hose connection. I have had both ends freeze up before when I didn't get to empty it in time.
I use a homemade version of this:

to clear the lines, and then backfill with one of these:

in a five-gallon pail of RV Antifreeze. Takes no time at all.

At 1:09 you get to see how small an impact one of the subsoilers leaves on your lawn with laying pipe. Very little repair needed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ntj0YLrcng

 

[Corney]

Sounds like a lot of work to winterize. Why not put them below the frost line and use Non-Freeze Hose Bibbs?

Frost line here is 8-10 ft depending on traffic pounding it down! We just blow out our irrigation lines.

 

[GaryL]

GaryL,
I think with a BX2200 your going to be working really hard to even get a foot in the ground unless your working in sand, your even likely to tear up the ground just trying to do it.
Also the loop that you shown made out of the PVC is way too tight of a loop, you would need a wider loop to make it work.

I will have to look at the radius of the corner. I think I can get one that is more full radius vs. straight then tight radius. The actual metal attachment for the subsoiler is only an additional $100, so I might just buy both and have something that I can keep around and use in the future for friends and family. Everyone always wants to put water or electrical out to a shed or garage or something, but usually doesn't bother cause they don't want to dig that much. (Me included)

 

[Mike9]

Our "frost" line is 48" - last winter we had 6 feet of frost so if you can blow it out like you say the subsoiler is the way to go. I need one for the same reason. Get water to my garden from one direction and from a shed roof/rain barrel to a holding tank in the other.