hey sawmill, you okay?...see they have a fire NW of Ione on the Colville. Smokey as all get outs here. You dealing IWM?
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Active US fires...
http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/
Canada looks like they have their hands full as well... Look at the images...
https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEVjKqUr9VlkAAxOUnnIlQ;_ylc=X1MDMTM1MTE5NTY4NwRfcgMyBGZyA3locy1tb3ppbGxhLTAwMwRncHJpZANvVlNrcW9zSFJrNllwaGpZZmlkZ1NBBG5fcnNsdAMwBG5fc3VnZwMxBG9yaWdpbgNzZWFyY2gueWFob28uY29tBHBvcwMwBHBxc3RyAwRwcXN0cmwDBHFzdHJsAzI4BHF1ZXJ5A05vcnRod2VzdCBmaXJlIG1hcCBKdWx5IDIwMTUEdF9zdG1wAzE0Mzg2MDIwMTg-?p=Northwest+fire+map+July+2015&fr2=sb-top-search&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-003
http://activefiremaps.fs.fed.us/
Canada looks like they have their hands full as well... Look at the images...
https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEVjKqUr9VlkAAxOUnnIlQ;_ylc=X1MDMTM1MTE5NTY4NwRfcgMyBGZyA3locy1tb3ppbGxhLTAwMwRncHJpZANvVlNrcW9zSFJrNllwaGpZZmlkZ1NBBG5fcnNsdAMwBG5fc3VnZwMxBG9yaWdpbgNzZWFyY2gueWFob28uY29tBHBvcwMwBHBxc3RyAwRwcXN0cmwDBHFzdHJsAzI4BHF1ZXJ5A05vcnRod2VzdCBmaXJlIG1hcCBKdWx5IDIwMTUEdF9zdG1wAzE0Mzg2MDIwMTg-?p=Northwest+fire+map+July+2015&fr2=sb-top-search&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-003
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Lots of fires here too, Coconino National Forest just published that they have found 319 abandoned campfires so far this year, compared with 157 last year.
What the hell is wrong with these low grade morons? This is one of those very few situations that I wish for more government employees to catch these idiots, and administer some real penalties- say $10,000 fines, seizure & loss of vehicle & gear, and about a year of forrest fire fighting/restoration work. Maybe a severe beating, too.
Lord, sometimes I hate people so much.
What the hell is wrong with these low grade morons? This is one of those very few situations that I wish for more government employees to catch these idiots, and administer some real penalties- say $10,000 fines, seizure & loss of vehicle & gear, and about a year of forrest fire fighting/restoration work. Maybe a severe beating, too.
Lord, sometimes I hate people so much.
Yeh We're okay here. The fire is about 10 miles northwest of us. It's going to be a tough one to contain. It's very dense forest with lots of under brush and dry as hell. It really has the potential of spreading. It's pretty rough terrain with no access roads close to it. It's pretty smoky here, but due to the wind, I think most of the smoke is going over Wolfman's way.
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Lots of these fires are intentionally set with the intention of starting a big one.
Al Khaeda stated a few years back that they wanted to burn out Utah. They nearly did.
The forest service doesn't like to comment on home terrorism but the DHS did once in a conference. Its a big deal and they don't want any more copy cats.
A buddy is a volunteer west of Durango. They had a meeting with the Feds regarding federal assistance. The new rule was, "We'll try to save structures and occupants. But as for raw unpopulated land, it burns.
No money to fight it. I guess trees don't vote so they don't get any resources.
Al Khaeda stated a few years back that they wanted to burn out Utah. They nearly did.
The forest service doesn't like to comment on home terrorism but the DHS did once in a conference. Its a big deal and they don't want any more copy cats.
A buddy is a volunteer west of Durango. They had a meeting with the Feds regarding federal assistance. The new rule was, "We'll try to save structures and occupants. But as for raw unpopulated land, it burns.
No money to fight it. I guess trees don't vote so they don't get any resources.
I don't know the terrain around you sawmill but 10 miles is not a comfortable chuck of realestate between me and a fire!
CCR you have a unique prospective on the world around you!
Sure hope a rain comes and allows them to control those fires!
CCR you have a unique prospective on the world around you!
Sure hope a rain comes and allows them to control those fires!
CCR, Hopefully that's not the case here. They would have to hike a few miles over very rough terrain to get to where this one started. It's pretty desolate country. Here's a couple of pictures. The one showing the flames is only part of it.
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Yep, rain would help, but usually this time of year when we get rain it comes in the form of a thunderstorm. That's not good. As far as the distance, we're keeping an eye on the fire. I have the hitch in the pickup and the 5th wheel is setting in the driveway ready to hookup. Hope it doesn't come to that.
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No doubt a lot of these remote fires are dry lightning strikes. I wish that were the case with all of these fires. The ones that threaten populated areas are unfortunately often times man-caused...
https://publicintelligence.net/homeland-security-warns-of-terrorist-wildfire-attacks/
https://publicintelligence.net/homeland-security-warns-of-terrorist-wildfire-attacks/
My wife's aunt lives in the little town of Hayfork, California. It is completely surrounded by fires. They had to evacuate and have their camper parked in the grocery store parking lot. Looks like they might loose their place and everything.
They can't even leave town because all the roads are closed due to the fires. Hopefully the whole town doesn't burn. There's no way out for the people. Those fires could very easily have been started by some nutcase.
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"Californica" has more than its share.
My bro lives in Orange County. I used to fly into O.C. and Burbank for overnights quite a lot. When the Santa Ana winds (from the north) pick up, the "fire bugs" come out. In one case witnesses followed a guy down a road northwest of Burbank as he chucked fireballs out his tuck window as the winds were picking up. That fire burned thousand of acres and toasted many structures.
In Arizona, use of deadly force is authorized against any person trying to commit arson against any occupied structure. I wish they would extend that to intentional fires that obviously threaten occupied structures. About ten years ago, we had two enormous fires, one that was started by a part-time native American fire fighter who wanted work and the other was started by some booger-eating-moron woman who got lost in the woods and decided she'd start a fire to get found. These two fires met and turned into the fire of the decade: The Rodeo-Chedesky fire.
Our society has no problem putting down a rabid animal because of the threat he presents. But take a scumball who intentionally starts fires with the intent of threatening human beings, -or a guy who shoots up a movie theater and "oh my, NO!" we cannot seem to remove that individual from society. Instead, we warehouse them for the rest of their lives at a huge cost to society, all to salve a few people's emotions. In my mind, a couple of these firebugs publicly executed on the evening news just might make others think twice about doing the same thing.
But then, I am just an old kook...
My bro lives in Orange County. I used to fly into O.C. and Burbank for overnights quite a lot. When the Santa Ana winds (from the north) pick up, the "fire bugs" come out. In one case witnesses followed a guy down a road northwest of Burbank as he chucked fireballs out his tuck window as the winds were picking up. That fire burned thousand of acres and toasted many structures.
In Arizona, use of deadly force is authorized against any person trying to commit arson against any occupied structure. I wish they would extend that to intentional fires that obviously threaten occupied structures. About ten years ago, we had two enormous fires, one that was started by a part-time native American fire fighter who wanted work and the other was started by some booger-eating-moron woman who got lost in the woods and decided she'd start a fire to get found. These two fires met and turned into the fire of the decade: The Rodeo-Chedesky fire.
Our society has no problem putting down a rabid animal because of the threat he presents. But take a scumball who intentionally starts fires with the intent of threatening human beings, -or a guy who shoots up a movie theater and "oh my, NO!" we cannot seem to remove that individual from society. Instead, we warehouse them for the rest of their lives at a huge cost to society, all to salve a few people's emotions. In my mind, a couple of these firebugs publicly executed on the evening news just might make others think twice about doing the same thing.
But then, I am just an old kook...
"In my mind, a couple of these firebugs publicly executed on the evening news just might make others think twice about doing the same thing." I agree.
And if it doesn't make others think twice, keep up with the procedure. Gotta clean the pool somehow!
And if it doesn't make others think twice, keep up with the procedure. Gotta clean the pool somehow!
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Arsonists start at a very young age. My sister in-law works with young fire bugs and tries to reform them. It's a good program and she has never runs out of kids to reform. It's frightening for you guys in the western match box, one nut case with a match can create mass distruction.
The men and women that fight those wildfires are a special breed, and I tip my hat to them. I don't think you could find a tougher job, God bless them.
The men and women that fight those wildfires are a special breed, and I tip my hat to them. I don't think you could find a tougher job, God bless them.
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It must be the era...
When I was a kid, every boy I knew was a pyromaniac. If it wasn't fire crackers or matches it was using lighter fluid to melt army men or dinky cars. I used to pour lighter fluid on my hand and set it on fire to gross out the girls. In high school we were using bottles of salt peter and bags of sugar to make huge conflagrations. German fireworks were awesome. Never once did I think of burning a forest or someone's house. There must be some new genetic mutation that deems that appropriate.
But then, back then, ten year-olds had 22 rifles and access to other weapons. I still have the three German hunting knives I used to go out and play with all the time as a 8 year-old. I never threatened a cop, a play friend, or held up a candy kiosk in Germany as a kid. I was extremely respectful of others. Musta been the way I was raised.
You reap what you sow...
Speaking of those knives, I have the larger and the smaller right here. Perfect size for kids (7"). I wore them in the sheath on my belt -all three of them! Must be why I have always been fascinated by good knife making all my life.
When I was a kid, every boy I knew was a pyromaniac. If it wasn't fire crackers or matches it was using lighter fluid to melt army men or dinky cars. I used to pour lighter fluid on my hand and set it on fire to gross out the girls. In high school we were using bottles of salt peter and bags of sugar to make huge conflagrations. German fireworks were awesome. Never once did I think of burning a forest or someone's house. There must be some new genetic mutation that deems that appropriate.
But then, back then, ten year-olds had 22 rifles and access to other weapons. I still have the three German hunting knives I used to go out and play with all the time as a 8 year-old. I never threatened a cop, a play friend, or held up a candy kiosk in Germany as a kid. I was extremely respectful of others. Musta been the way I was raised.
You reap what you sow...
Speaking of those knives, I have the larger and the smaller right here. Perfect size for kids (7"). I wore them in the sheath on my belt -all three of them! Must be why I have always been fascinated by good knife making all my life.
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We just lost three firefighters in the Okanogan, Washington state.
Ash from numerous fires in the area is raining down on us here in the Pend Oreille Valley. The smoke is pretty heavy and the sun is red with smoke.
Wind and lightening to pick up by weeks end.
We just lost three firefighters in the Okanogan, Washington state.
Ash from numerous fires in the area is raining down on us here in the Pend Oreille Valley. The smoke is pretty heavy and the sun is red with smoke.
Wind and lightening to pick up by weeks end.
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It's really scary up here! We've got a thick cloud of smoke all around and several fires, one is about 2 miles from my mom's place, she's at the ready to jump in a car and bolt at moments notice!
Have many friends that have done or do wild fire fighting, it's a tough job!
My heart goes out to the families that lost one of theirs fighting this mess!
Worried about all you westerners...fingers crossed that all will be well. Had a brush fire suddenly run up a canyon behind my horse corral when I lived in California, was never so scared in my whole life. Wish I could send you some rain...take care
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That is tough. The scars last for a lifetime.
We lost 19 in a fire a few years back and every year, something new comes out about it and its like tearing the scab off again.
We are paying the price for "experts" who told us for years that we should stop letting the small fires that naturally clean out the underbrush burn their way through.
Hope the weather breaks soon and they get these fires under control.
We lost 19 in a fire a few years back and every year, something new comes out about it and its like tearing the scab off again.
We are paying the price for "experts" who told us for years that we should stop letting the small fires that naturally clean out the underbrush burn their way through.
Hope the weather breaks soon and they get these fires under control.