I want to run electricity to a remote well and water lines to several points on my 4 1/2 acre property. I've been looking online at cat 1 single tine sub soilers but only one (Agri Supply) has an available pipe laying attachment. This setup will be just over $300 with shipping. Does anyone know of another source for these items? I'd just like to explore all options.
Sub soiler and pipe layer
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Check with your local or state amateur radio clubs. Hams sometimes have vertical antennas and they need a grounding area made up of buried wires radiating out from the antenna. You may find such a person who has bought or made his own wire burying rig for the back of a tractor. Borrowing it may be all you need. These types of hams are rare and maybe they can point to one some other place (we communicate all over the world).
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Dave,
describe the soil you are looking to dig in? Hard clay? Sandy loam (doubt you have any of that there) and what depth of you trying to obtain? Laying the conduit AFTER the fact will not be that bad.
On another note, you can rent a "ditchwitch" for about 100 bucks a day, and depending on true length of run might be a better way. Sub soilers will work great until you run into the massive root or rock.
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You will not get a subsoiler on your BX to give you enough depth to keep a water line from freezing.
It will work for the electric if you don't want it too deep, But that's if you do not have rocky or hard ground.
Rent a trencher and get it down deep enough in one shot!
It will work for the electric if you don't want it too deep, But that's if you do not have rocky or hard ground.
Rent a trencher and get it down deep enough in one shot!
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Sorry, but I'm still trying to figure out this "quick reply" thing. Sometimes I'm such a luddite...
My soil runs from rather rocky to shale hell. With a frost line of 48" I would have to dig all water lines with the backhoe. However, I only plan to have the water on during garden season so the 14" or so depth of a sub soiled trench should be just fine.
My soil runs from rather rocky to shale hell. With a frost line of 48" I would have to dig all water lines with the backhoe. However, I only plan to have the water on during garden season so the 14" or so depth of a sub soiled trench should be just fine.
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NO it won't be fine unless you have a 100% sure way to drain all the water from the ground lines. Even better if you add RV antifreeze.
Reminder: When it is NOT garden season; AKA Winter, the pipes will be sitting there full of water ready to freeze
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Blow them out with compressed air. I have done this for a number of years and never had a problem. My pipes are about 2 feet down and the frost is about 4 feet normally - this year it was 5 or more feet.
(P.S. my compressor has an eighty gallon tank - 175psi cutoff and can deliver 26cfm at 175psi)
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Exactly what Olthumpa said.......
when you make your pvc connections, place a screw in plug and one end, and a tire valve at the other - this is very easy to do - drill a hole, something like a 1/2" into the pvc pipe AFTER a 1/4 turn ball valve - do this where you can reach inside to place the tire valve and then pull (like they do to change valves on your car). Close the valve and hook your compressor to the tire valve. YOU need not get 100 % of the water out, when the plug end start spitting water and air you know you got most of it, this is the same way we blow out all of air irrigation lines out at school. As long as the water has someplace to freeze it will be fine. You will be be surprised how well the water will be blown out ( if one side of the pipe is flowing down hill, place the tire valve at the other end)
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If you have a grade that will help too.
So yes a subsoiler will work for you in this situation.
If you can't find a model with the feed pipe just either make one or have one made, you can also put 2 feed pipes in to do electric and water at the same time.
So yes a subsoiler will work for you in this situation.
If you can't find a model with the feed pipe just either make one or have one made, you can also put 2 feed pipes in to do electric and water at the same time.
Yes you can do it with a small tractor,, I did it with one of those yellow off brand things,,, I ran the trench a couple times to make sure I got as deep as I could and then Lil Bro welded up this kind of a rig to lay the pipe we pulled in 1 inch black water line about 250 feet, took some time but I had a grade going back to the creek and pump, so the water drained back down the grade out in the winter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7Ntj0YLrcng#t=46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7Ntj0YLrcng#t=46
What can I say? Yes, yes and yes! Even though my well is at the top of the property and all water lines will run down hill, I will definitely set the system up with tire valves to blow the lines out. I really like the idea of a two tube system for laying wire and pipe at the same time.
Thanks for all the suggestions.
Thanks for all the suggestions.