Tooth Bars ?

[Scooby2]

Hi you all, my first post, but have been viewing and learning.

Recently got a BX 2370 with FEL and back blade.

My question is a bar with traditional type teeth or a Piranha from BXpanded?

Will be doing landscape type work.

Pros and cons.

Thanx

Mark

 

[HickoryNut]

Welcome to the OTT Scooby2.

I see merits in both types, I prefer the piranha as my dirt comes with rocks and lots of brush.

Hold on, more will be chiming in just let me get 'sitiated with some popcorn!

 

[SLIMSHADIE]

I havent used mine yet!!! But the pirahana blade will wear before the bucket cutting edge will. Its really thick so it will be awhile, maybe my lifetime.

 

[Tallahassee Kubota Man]

Welcome Scooby2. I've only been a member for 6 months or so, but have gotten some great info.
I've had the regular type tooth bar on two tractors. They stay on the bucket 90% of the time. They really make a difference when digging and work pretty well for raking shallow roots and pushing brush into a piles. The piranha bars seem to be pretty popular. I'd guess they're better at cutting things.
Mark

 

[Scooby2]

I havent used mine yet!!! But the pirahana blade will wear before the bucket cutting edge will. Its really thick so it will be awhile, maybe my lifetime.

Slimshadie thanx for your reply.

Preserving the bucket and being less aggressive I think are the best features.

Also anyone have under armour comments ?

Thanx

Mark

 

[ShaunBlake]

...Recently got a BX 2370 with FEL and back blade.

Yeah showoff, gimme another cheezy grin!

...My question is a bar with traditional type teeth or a Piranha from BXpanded?
Will be doing landscape type work.
Pros and cons.

All kidding aside (trust me! the check is in the mail!), with your horsepower and weight, the traditional bolt-on/weld-on teeth will work for you (assuming you're near THE LAKE, not some other Niagara). I was having trouble digging with my "little" B6100 (roughly 2/3 your weight, almost 1/2 your HP) so I got a Piranha. I love it, but it is not a miracle worker. I've got *lots* of roots, which my hydraulics can't handle. But the Piranha, with it's sharp (and hardened) teeth help a lot... with more weight and more hydraulic pressure, I would be able to dig more than I can now.

Some folk say that the Piranha bar can't be used for landscaping, or that you have to rotate the bucket up and back-drag with the back of the bucket. I've found that the bar, mounted below the bucket, does grab dirt when back-dragging. However, the bottom of the bar is smooth (unlike most tooth additions, which usually protrude below the bottom of the bucket) and I've gotten some pretty satisfactory surfaces with the bar in place. (Again, the caveat, no weight, so no real downward pressure.)

Unfortunately I didn't think to lay out my comments as pros and cons. Sorry. Hopefully you will glean the positive and negative aspects.

In closing, I would say that for landscaping, the Piranha bar or no bar would be a better choice. If your need is more earth-moving, perhaps the traditional tooth would be a good choice.

Now that we have contributed to your knowledge without snidely telling you to do a search for the numerous threads covering this, please do us the courtesy of posting your choices and your results! And as Tomcat and numerous others say every chance they get: "Without pictures, it didn't happen!"

 

[BravoXray]

I have the Piranha toothbar and the under armor on my BX-25D, and it works great. I'm doing a lot of landscaping. I put bolt on teeth on the Bobcat skid steer, they work great, but make it harder to get a nice finish. Two bolts will drop the Piranha, but I haven't had mine off since I first installed it. I get a pretty decent result back dragging with the bucket level. For areas where I'm planting grass I'll go back over it with the box blade. I'm thinking about adding a roller this year to go over the parts that I planted grass on last year. I'm shooting for a pool table smooth lawn mowing experience, as opposed to the rutted lunar surface I've been mowing for years now.
As for the under armor, my original fan is still there after a year of brush cutting, grading and snow plowing, so I consider it cheap insurance.

Jerry

 

[85Hokie]

Hi you all, my first post, but have been viewing and learning.

Recently got a BX 2370 with FEL and back blade.

My question is a bar with traditional type teeth or a Piranha from BXpanded?

Will be doing landscape type work.

Pros and cons.

Thanx

Mark

Mark,

thumbs up on the PTB - I love mine - but I do not move large rocks nor to I try to hang roots etc.

The cost of the PTB was a deciding factor - that it being "cheaper" than those with the larger bolt on's with the large teeth. For picking up gravel, scooping dirt, backdragging, all those thing that one needs - the PTB is the perfect answer. If I needed a larger machine to tear into the earth and really get into heavier movements of roots and cutting deeper at one pass I would think that the larger tooth bar would do much better. I am not sure that the BX series has enough "machine" to utilize the more aggressive tooth of a toothbar. The scissor like action on small roots works well too!