Hi there everyone. I have a question that I am sure will be easy for some of you. Here it is, I have a 2013 kubota L3200. I installed a hyd thumb on the bucket with a diverter valve from surplus center. It works great. Probably the best money I have spent on this machine. Anyway, I figured I would take a old fisher snow plow and weld on a SSQA plate and use it to plow if my truck went down. Well I got it all welded up looking good. I bought a couple new hoses with quick disconnects and hooked up the cylinders tonight. These are regular single acting cylinders that were on the plow. When I try to angle the plow it wont- either way- but my thumb with the one double acting cylinder works great. I am wondering if it is not letting the pressure off in the cylinder that needs to go in and letting the hyd fluid flow back into the system- I would appreciate any help!!
Hydraulic SSQA Plow Troubles
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Ok - well I tried a known good set of hydraulic cylinders and no change. This is the selector valve I am using-
12 VDC 13.2 GPM SAE 8 DOUBLE SELECTOR VALVE
I really dont understand it- It runs my grapple just fine. The only difference I can see is that the grapple has one double acting hydraulic cylinder, and the plow has two single acting cylinders- Please anyone feel free to chime in as I am lost. I am sure it is something stupid that i am missing. Could I have the diverter valve plumbed wrong? seems like the grapple would not work right... When I try to angle the plow it angles left, you can tell it is nor right... its a little slow- and when you try to angle it to the right it does nothing, I mean you can tell there is a load on the hydraulic pump- you can see the hoses flex and the pump changes tone- but no movement from the plow- Is there anything else I can tell you? I would love to hear some ideas! Also, I did take the cylinders off and manually angled the plow to make sure there is no binding mechanically. I can post pics if it helps.... thank you!
Ok - well I tried a known good set of hydraulic cylinders and no change. This is the selector valve I am using-
12 VDC 13.2 GPM SAE 8 DOUBLE SELECTOR VALVE
I really dont understand it- It runs my grapple just fine. The only difference I can see is that the grapple has one double acting hydraulic cylinder, and the plow has two single acting cylinders- Please anyone feel free to chime in as I am lost. I am sure it is something stupid that i am missing. Could I have the diverter valve plumbed wrong? seems like the grapple would not work right... When I try to angle the plow it angles left, you can tell it is nor right... its a little slow- and when you try to angle it to the right it does nothing, I mean you can tell there is a load on the hydraulic pump- you can see the hoses flex and the pump changes tone- but no movement from the plow- Is there anything else I can tell you? I would love to hear some ideas! Also, I did take the cylinders off and manually angled the plow to make sure there is no binding mechanically. I can post pics if it helps.... thank you!
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Do you have it hooked up like this?
And do you have the part# to the valve you have?
And do you have the part# to the valve you have?
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Yes, I am fairly certain that is how I have it hooked up- I have not gone into the hydraulics on the tractor that much, just because my grapple works as it should. The part number from Surplus Center is 9-7852. Thanks a lot for your help. Must have taken some time to draw that up!
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Don't mean to be a PITA but would suggest next time your out there at the tractor make absolutely certain and not be satisfied with fairley certain.
In the mean time few may come up with any other possiblities
I understand that, I looked and that is how it is hooked up. I do this every day dealing with parts guys and I know its a pain in the ass. Its not my first rodeo here, but I hear you-
Check out this thread, particularly post #3 and #4, I believe the regen function of your valve is causing your issue, although generally that only affects movement one way and not both. A search of the term "regen" will turn up more info here and on other forums as well.
http://www.orangetractortalks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12444&highlight=regen
http://www.orangetractortalks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12444&highlight=regen
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Yes Kennyd4110 probably nailed it right on the head, I'm betting your best option is to put a set of double action cylinders on it and sell the single action cylinders. 
I am not that familiar with that model (or most Kubota's for that matter), but can't he just push the joystick further to the right to get passed the regen part of the valve?I'm betting your best option is to put a set of double action cylinders on it and sell the single action cylinders.
Edit: Even a DA cylinder can have the "lockup" symptoms with regen active if there is no mechanical advantage to help it move-like in a snowblower chute rotation setup.
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Wolfie - you are such a great resource here!Yes Kennyd4110 probably nailed it right on the head, I'm betting your best option is to put a set of double action cylinders on it and sell the single action cylinders.
I didn't ask the question at hand, but I'm guessing your percentage of great answers is real high!
Thanks to you, and the many other guys here willing to help.
Well, I did check and there is no detent position, it is just dump and no more- so that sucks- I guess what I will have to do is just buy a DA cylinder and install it on the plow. I am glad I did not wait until a storm to try this plow out I know that... JJ over on TBN (also a really clever guy) advised me to install a double relief valve which I think I will do. I see you sell them Kenny. I will grab one soon-