Steering brakes on a bx2360
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Well, upgrading to a B2601 would do it.
But, seriously, if you do figure it out, I’m sure there’s a few BX owners that would be interested. Good luck with it.
But, seriously, if you do figure it out, I’m sure there’s a few BX owners that would be interested. Good luck with it.
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WHY????
What exactly do you think you'll gain from it having steering brakes?
The B series and LX series have them but don't benift. The BX is even shorter frame and much lighter. All you will do is make dirt rings in grass.
On our old 8N, we somewhat regularly used the cutting brakes (no 4WD, no power steering). On my Kubota HST L and B , I very rarely use the brakes at all, other than to set the parking brake. I’ve had the L about 18 years and never used the cutting brakes (of course both brake pedals are in the right side of the machine, directly above the HST pedal, so you’d have to have two right legs to use the cutting brakes). I’ve had my B for 2 years and have never used the cutting brakes. I’ve got some slopes and regularly mow around trees.
So as to why cutting brakes on a tight turning BX would be desirable is a fair question.
So as to why cutting brakes on a tight turning BX would be desirable is a fair question.
I think there are two likey benefits…shorter turning radius and to control wheel slippage (control of wheel slippage more applicable for gear drive IMO), but with a HST it’s really more for turning radius…it’s gonna remove some turf though. With an HST it’s not much of an issue to use the FWD/REVERSE pedal IMO, but YMMV.
Sure, those are the typical reasons to use cutting brakes on any tractor. With 4WD and w/ or w/o diff lock and a very short wheel base and pretty short turning radius, since now I’m thinking about it, is there much to be gained on a BX? 1, maybe 2 ft reduction in the turning radius in 2WD, no diff lock, turned full lock with a cutting brake fully stomped?
I could see some value if mucking out a stall maybe…it would make a difference there. I had a BX and sure I would have liked it to turn like a ZT, but not at the expense to tear out the lawn…when I was parking boats inside the barn I would have used split breaks (I do now with my B). I would not use them just to mow the yard though…I don’t manicure my lawn or anything but I would not want the tear out / mud simply because I don’t want my GSDs to have muddy paws. But if having a BX to use in close quarters it’d be a benefit I think. Depends on OP use.
I used both a BX and a 46 hp L for many years and 1,000+ hours on each. The L had split brakes, the BX, obviously not. Came to the conclusion there were only 2 uses for the split brakes. 1. To control wheel spin in mud/snow. 2. Making minimum radius turns in field work. For the low traction situation, 4wd + the differential lock worked better than stabbing one or the other wheel brakes.
The quick U-turns were sometimes handy, but you have to be careful because turning brakes will lock one wheel and make the other one speed up and really whip the tractor around. It can get very "sporty" if the ground isn't flat and smooth. You might need to back off the throttle or HST when making turns like that. By the time you get everything re-adjusted back where you want it, you realize it would have been just as quick to use the steering and the HST pedal to make a mild 3 point turn. Just what happened at my place. YMMV.
The quick U-turns were sometimes handy, but you have to be careful because turning brakes will lock one wheel and make the other one speed up and really whip the tractor around. It can get very "sporty" if the ground isn't flat and smooth. You might need to back off the throttle or HST when making turns like that. By the time you get everything re-adjusted back where you want it, you realize it would have been just as quick to use the steering and the HST pedal to make a mild 3 point turn. Just what happened at my place. YMMV.
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That would be quite a challenge as there is only one brake in the rear end of a BX, not a brake in each rear axle housing like other models.
My downloaded parts diagram shows a LH and a RH brake, but Messicks online parts diagram doesn't.
Messicks has the LH lever K2583-13510, but doesn't know the RH lever K2583-13520
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Part number K2583-13510 is mounted on the RH side of a BX tractor to operate the only brake a BX tractor has.
I have no idea what K2583-13520 is, but it is not used on a BX-series tractor
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You can not use USA or CA parts diagrams that are for USA And CA tractors and compare them to Newer EU tractors, they are not the same tractors.
They are different builds, Yes even with the same model numbers!
Don't know about OP, but I wouldn't have a tractor without them. To me they are essential. With no fel I'm heavily reliant on the boom pole, and use indipendent bakes for steering assistance when the front end gets light.