Seized engine l3400

etexan

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I'm new today just took my l3400 tractor to the dealer with the engine locked up
They told me you couldn't get parts would need complete new engine. Shocked to say the least, just 153 hrs on tractor.
 

rbargeron

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Can you post a few details about what it was doing when it stopped? Any smoke or noises?
 

etexan

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I loaned it someone when I got it back all the coolant leaked out it got hot when it cooled it was locked up. The dealer said they don't offer parts to rebuild that engine. I called another dealer he said he couldn't get either.
 

North Idaho Wolfman

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That tractor has one of 2 engines in it, on the side of the block will be the CC's or liters cast into the block, and yes you can get all the rebuild parts for both engines, from Kumar bros.

Most commonly on an overheat on these engines they crack the heads and fill the pistons with water / antifreeze and will make you think the motor is sized.

A rebuild is not cheap about 2k total, (that is all new parts), but could be much cheaper if it's just the head. ;)

Dealers do not like to or not capable of doing rebuilds, find a local diesel mechanic and they should be able to rebuild it, if you can find anyone local, give me a shout and I'll see if I can help as I've rebuilt / repaired several.
 
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gsganzer

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I hate to hear that.

That's why I only loan my tractor with an included operator (Me!).

On the same note, I only borrow equipment if I'm prepared to buy it if I break it.
 

lugbolt

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As said, that engine is totally rebuildable. The reason dealers don't like to do rebuilds is that it's time consuming (extremely time consuming if they do it correctly). By time you figure in 20-30 hours labor at nearly $100/hr, plus parts, you're into replacement territory. Replacement comes with 1 year warranty, dealer rebuild usually 30-60-90 days. If replacement engine fails within one year, Kubota sucks up that $5000 engine. If rebuilt engine fails within dealer warranty period, the dealer has to eat it. Guess which way the dealer wants to go? Yes...replacement.

Do you by chance have insurance on it? They might help. Worth looking into for sure!

Also, if dealer replaces the engine, they are required by law to document the old engine's destruction. Meaning in order to get Kubota to send the new one, they have to take pictures of the drill bit drilled all the way through the block and into a cylinder wall. Thank you, EPA. Another reason to rebuild as opposed to replacing.

Yeah....loaning tractors is the #1 cause of tractor problems. I picke up a MF1145 last year for a song and fixed a few things. Dandy little tractor (still not a Kubota but I like it). I loaned it to my dad who was using it to spread some dirt with the FEL. My brother decided he needed to use it and he picked it up from my dad. Then my brother loaned it to his buddy. Needless to say I was not happy about it. I finally get it back and it's got more leaks than I can shake a stick at. I've been working on it ever since I got it back, fixing hoses, smashed hydraulic tubes, etc. Never again.
 

North Idaho Wolfman

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Wolfman am I correct in thinking the 3400 and 3700,3800 have the same engine?
Yes they do appear to be the same 1.8 liter.
There will be small changes that will change the HP output but essentially they are the same. ;)
 

lugbolt

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There were TWO different engines for the L3400 ;)

One was 1.6L. The other 1.8L, going off of memory. The latter being a Interim Tier IV engine ;)
 

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Thanks fellows, not wanting to take the tread just give some more thoughts if he wanted to search a junk yard route.