Reverse pto

[chubmanjoe]

I am looking @ a B6000 which the current owner says has a reverse PTO...he says Hub City used to make a "correcting" gearbox to make the rotation standard. Does anyone know of a source for that device? The B6000 has a K600 backhoe & a factory bucket. I'll need to attach a bush hog, so must have the convertor for this to work for me - anything else I need to be aware of about this particular model?

Thanks,

Chubmanjoe

 

[Eric McCarthy]

Nope thats about it, you'll need a pto reverser adaptor for it to use clockwise running implements.

 

[BadDog]

Nope thats about it, you'll need a pto reverser adaptor for it to use clockwise running implements.

It's clearly my ignorance, but I fail to see why they would produce a non-standard rotation PTO? If PTO were commonly reversible I could see designing implements with the simplest mechanism possible. But when almost all have "standard rotation", and PTOs are not typically (ever?) rotation selectable, why produce an implement requiring reverse rotation? Or for that matter, tractors with only reverse rotation PTOs.

 

[chubmanjoe]

Nope thats about it, you'll need a pto reverser adaptor for it to use clockwise running implements.

Thanks Eric - Any idea who makes them or even if they're still avaibale?

 

[chubmanjoe]

It's clearly my ignorance, but I fail to see why they would produce a non-standard rotation PTO? If PTO were commonly reversible I could see designing implements with the simplest mechanism possible. But when almost all have "standard rotation", and PTOs are not typically (ever?) rotation selectable, why produce an implement requiring reverse rotation? Or for that matter, tractors with only reverse rotation PTOs.

I ad the same question Bad Dog...the owner does not seem to know...he has used the bucket & backhoe exclusively...said he never had a use for attaching other implements so it never bother him...I'll need to run a mower so I have to figure this out before I buy...

 

[Rob]

There is a very easy answer to this, the B6000's have a anticlockwise PTO, and kubota manafactured Implements to suit this format.
other companies also made implements for the B6000 with suitable PTO direction.
Any kubota implements designed for the B6000 inc backhoes, which , have hydraulic a gear pump, the pumpwill be configured to run anticlock wise also, hence the lack need for PTO reverser.
If you wish run any PTO based implement from a b6000 which is standard 540 clockwise rotation you'll need a reverser such as a hub city device.

Have a Read through my previous threads on this same subject, i had a b6000 and have been allthrough the hubcity route etc.


In the end i swapped the whole rear end over on my B6000 ending up with a conventional clockwise 540 PTO shaft and output.

rob

 

[lsmurphy]

I ad the same question Bad Dog...the owner does not seem to know...he has used the bucket & backhoe exclusively...said he never had a use for attaching other implements so it never bother him...I'll need to run a mower so I have to figure this out before I buy...

Find a 7100 or other.


http://asheville.craigslist.org/grd/3887380517.html


Fair deal I suppose.........but to swap back and forth........???????????...........nothing but headaches.........YOUR headaches.




If you are going to go that route you'll likely want to swap out as Rob did and then swap the pump for the backhoe also.

I've seen the reverses go for around $600 when they pop up.

 

[lsmurphy]

http://knoxville.craigslist.org/grd/3881938642.html


Here's you a mower for it.

 

[Eric McCarthy]

A B6000 is a Grey Market tractor not meant for the American market. So in other countries the pto directions are backwards to ours. The B6100 is the North American model designed to be built and sold in this country and to keep up with the rest of the markets the put a clockwise running pto on those tractors to accommodate the standard pto system here in the U.S.

 

[BadDog]

Ahh, that makes sense. Thanks...

 

[Eric McCarthy]

Simple signs of it being a grey market import are the labels are written in Japanese or no labes at all is the simplest way to determine which model you have. But rest assure its still a Kubota through and through.

 

[freewheel3]

A B6000 is a Grey Market tractor not meant for the American market. So in other countries the pto directions are backwards to ours. The B6100 is the North American model designed to be built and sold in this country and to keep up with the rest of the markets the put a clockwise running pto on those tractors to accommodate the standard pto system here in the U.S.

Actually Eric, there were B6000s that were designed for the US market. They had the labels in English, floor boards, tail lights and the PTO spun counter-clockwise on those as well, I believe.
I heard that the PTO turns counter-clockwise on all B6000s because the engine turns that way (not positive on that).

 

[Rob]

To clarify, all b6000's were designed and manafactured with an anti-clockwise PTO, as were certain Satoh and mitsubishi compacts.
B6000's were manafactured for distrubution for the JDM and European markets, of which both versions also ended up in large quantities in th US and other countries also Australia and New zealand.
labels in Japanese etc are machine that were set for The JDM market, english overseas to european locations etc.
Machines are all pretty well the same spec overall but with differing levels of safety fitmentsdue to market specific requirements. B6000 never complied with US safety standards hence why it was never offiacally offered there.
Some b6000's also had a mid PTO output for a mid mount mower but again specific to market placement ( i had such a version).

Engine rotation or fitment has no connection to the PTO rotation on the B6000, the rear end is the key point that differs.

hope that helps.
rob

 

[chubmanjoe]

Guys - took everyone's advice into consideration...then took Ismurphy's advice & bought a B7100...had not luck w/Boston Gear or Hub City on a "reverse" gear set-up. I'll be switching to the other forums now, but wanted to thank everyone for your help.

Before I go, does anyone have a short course on cold start-ups? I have never had a diesel & want to make sure I am doing everything correctly. Thanks again - Chubmanjoe

 

[Eric McCarthy]

Well why are ya taking off and leaving us??

 

[Rob]

Why do i get the feeling we've been used here ...
supplied the info and help that was asked for then they up and go to another site with the info, what s wrong with OTT
I'd rather be on OTT than other sites ....

 

[chubmanjoe]

Wait guys, I just meant that I was going to the other threads since I had already made my purchasing decision. I've very grateful for your feedback and info.

 

[endrodyp]

http://www.ebay.es/itm/Wendegetrieb...436630?hash=item1c7f562656:g:Z9YAAOSwPCVX9OrW

try this reverser
I may buy one for my Mitsubishi, too.

 

[BR25004X4]

Here is where I just ordered my PTO reverser.

PTO Reversers are available from these folks. $830 shipped. They can do 10 or 18 spline also.

My B6000 had a 10 spline PTO.

http://www.japanesetractorparts.com

 

[Missouribound]

Although you fixed the issue I just wanted to point out that you CAN get reverse blades. Or for that matter reconfigure existing ones. A torch, a vise and some patience and it can be done. Or let a metal shop make you a few.