L60 series weight questions

[virginiavenom]

okay, so I've looked around and kind find any specs on the FEL as far as total system weight is or the bucket option weights. can anyone give me an idea on the weight of the LA 805 and the LA 1055?

I'm trying to figure total system weight of my order so I can go find a suitable trailer for it all prior to but for other reasons I want to know the component weights of my tractor. most others I can find, I've gotten everything from 500 lbs to 2000 lbs from varying dealers.

I'm just about set and ready to pull the trigger so these questions are almost done.

also, if anyone knows the actual weight of the 9ft backhoe system with frame mounts etc without bucket that would be helpful as well.

Thanks

 

[ShaunBlake]

I'm puzzled why you want to get the weight to the exact pound, even to leaving out a BH bucket's weight. I think in actual use, you seldom would need to move the whole rig, yet that's what prudence demands you figure -- with fudge factors, not exact measurements. IOW, figure 4 tons for the machine; a ton-and-a-half for BH; possibly as much as half a ton of FEL. Fudge that up for additional 'stuff'.

You must be looking at tandem, right? Brakes on at least one axle. Load range, what? 8k? 10k? Can your truck safely pull such a load?

Hope that helps. Good luck with your purchase!

 

[virginiavenom]

I'm puzzled why you want to get the weight to the exact pound, even to leaving out a BH bucket's weight. I think in actual use, you seldom would need to move the whole rig, yet that's what prudence demands you figure -- with fudge factors, not exact measurements. IOW, figure 4 tons for the machine; a ton-and-a-half for BH; possibly as much as half a ton of FEL. Fudge that up for additional 'stuff'.

You must be looking at tandem, right? Brakes on at least one axle. Load range, what? 8k? 10k? Can your truck safely pull such a load?

Hope that helps. Good luck with your purchase!

I just don't like that it seems the numbers are all over the place. 100 lbs off is one thing. getting the numbers I was getting is another entirely. I am looking at about 4500 for tractor only. and I would likely be doing work regularly with it at other sites so transporting the whole thing if I need them is more than likely the case. I have any number of trucks available to me if needed from a half ton to a 1 ton....I've towed 10k on my DD half ton no problems. the truck is really not my concern as I know what trucks I have will do what. my concern is I want to buy a trailer that will do the job, but not struggle and not be a 30k lb trailer GVW rating. I personally would guess a 10k trailer would haul a 4760 (primary goal at this point, possibly a 6060)

4500+ loaded tires at around 1000 lbs puts it at 5500, plus a FEL weight of about 1000 lbs, let's say bucket is what 400 lbs or so. BH at 3500. weight of 10400 lbs.....which would be total GVW for a 5200 lb tandem, so obviously a 7500 lb tandem would be the goal with a GVWR of 15,000 lbs with trailer. guessing trailer weighs in around 2000 lbs - 2500 lbs that should be no problem and leave a little expansion room if I need to carry a box blade or a tiller or a brush hog for other more minor implements. I have a smaller 16' car trailer with a 7k capacity if I need to move some minor implements with the tractor. basically I would want the ability to be able to move the tractor, FEL and backhoe all as one unit without stressing the trailer. I really didn't think the BH would be that much over the weight of the FEL. I was guessing around 1500-2k at most. without actual specs in front of me it's hard to guess.


yes trailer would be tandem and would have brakes on both axles. but I would like to be able to put this trailer on a half ton truck and pull it minus the BH if the BH is not needed. my other truck is a cummins dually....no problem on weight capacity there.

my other issue at this point is length....so many times I see tractors either hanging out over the tongue or hanging implements off the back of trailers....I don't want this. so what should I be looking at length wise.....with a brush hog or a back hoe on the back with FEL and bucket out front maximum overall length? I know tractor is approximately 10 ft. I figured add 3-4 for FEL and I'm again guessing 6-8 feet for the rear. so that puts me around 22......or should I get a 28 and be more than safe? I don't want a high rail trailer but a clear smooth deck, no dove tail. curious what quality brands I should be going for there as well.

 

[nickelplated5s]

If you're that worried about weights go buy a GN with 7K axles. Your friends/neighbors will borrow it and they are also easy to sell. Being able to safely stop is the most important thing.

 

[ShaunBlake]

I think you have it well scoped out on the weight. I'm in the dark about length; not much experience there. One thing you might think of that would let you stay with a smaller trailer so the 1/2-ton can pull it: load your hog first, then load the tractor/loader, with the bucket over the hog. Prolly shorten your length by 3' or so.

Not sure what your thoughts are on deck vs. dovetail. Clear deck makes me think of above-the-axle, which necessitates dovetail -- or how do you load it, particularly with a hog on the 3PH.

As for brands, I don't know for brands, when I see a trailer I think will work, I like to look at the welds. Actually, never thought to ask anybody about manufacturers. But you're in the part of the country where there seem to be a lot of trailer manufacturers, should be a shopper's paradise!

 

[sheepfarmer]

For whatever it's worth, I have the manual for the FEL805, which is on my 3560. The net weight of the loader is 1279 lbs. The weight of a 72" square quick attach bucket is 330 lbs , and a round 72" HD bucket is 397 lbs. The weight of 72" light materials bucket is 300 lbs.

The weights of the tractors with ROPS for the 3560 through the 5060 series ranges from 3549 to 3924 lbs, GST, 3649-4023 HST.

 

[virginiavenom]

For whatever it's worth, I have the manual for the FEL805, which is on my 3560. The net weight of the loader is 1279 lbs. The weight of a 72" square quick attach bucket is 330 lbs , and a round 72" HD bucket is 397 lbs. The weight of 72" light materials bucket is 300 lbs.

The weights of the tractors with ROPS for the 3560 through the 5060 series ranges from 3549 to 3924 lbs, GST, 3649-4023 HST.

good starting point. so max loader for the 3560 is around 1700 lbs. my tractor will be cabbed. and I have that figure which isn't too bad.

so now I just need to get a 1055 net weight and a bh netweight spec from someone with a manual.

 

[sheepfarmer]

The net weight for the LA1055 is also in my manual, is 1411lbs. Can't help with backhoe though!

 

[virginiavenom]

The net weight for the LA1055 is also in my manual, is 1411lbs. Can't help with backhoe though!

awesome. good information. thank you sir.