L 4240 D Loses power going up slopes

VTRGina

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With or without load, stall guard on or off, filters are clean - the tractor RPM drops to barely running and then gradually comes back up. I believe it happens more when the fuel tank is less than half full.
Has anyone else had this problem?
Thanks,
:)
 

Tooljunkie

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What range is tractor in,gear transmission or hst. Rpms is it set at. Mower or something running on pto and in 4wd (if equipped) and some idea of slope would help.
 

VTRGina

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Hi friends,
Thanks for your responses! I am not as mechanically inclined as my brother who owns the tractor but I am reaching out. To that end I don't know some of the more technical details or specific RPM #s.
I do use the tractor and have experienced the drop in RPM.

I don't know the hours. He bought the tractor in 2013 and feels that it is 'not that old'. It doesn't get used much in the winter, and just a few days a week in the summer depending on the weather, mowing mostly.
We always mow in 4WD, this is in Vermont.
Generally while mowing the tractor holds the 'mowing RPM' (which we are instructed to do, "Set it at ###, it should be fine.") in low, downhill and on the flats easily. On almost any incline (where you'd notice on a bike or walking) the motor slows down, as if it was receiving less fuel. The steeper the sooner, Our climb would take much longer than the other way. When we talked to my brother he'd tell us it was the stall guard kicking in because of the load (PTO & gravity).
This spring I was driving the tractor up a very mild incline, no mower, bucket empty. Put it in high (rabbit), crank up the throttle to 3/4s, 7/8s, put the pedal down, it should buzz right along. Indeed it would go up to ~ 18 MPH for about 30 feet then totally stall to a crawl. Obviously one throttles down, resets, and tries again. Same thing, so I end up going half throttle at half speed. Again my brother said it was the stall guard...
Until 'he' went mowing with the tractor. He tried every mode, high, low, HST, not HST, stall guard off or on. The tractor was dying on him on the mildest of uphill inclines.
He has recently talked to some folks himself and is going to try changing the fuel filters, and looking at the fuel line where apparently there is a 90-degree bend that might be collecting gunk.
I'm thinking it is the filters, I'm hoping so as that is an easy remedy.
:)
 

Tooljunkie

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If its a water in fuel or a blockage in fuel tank it may stall anytime its pointed uphill.

To climb a slope depressing the forward pedal more as machine starts to stall will only make matters worse,backing off on pedal increases power to wheels.
 

skeets

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Yes I would opt for water in the fuel or maybe algae , I would check the fuel filters first, then a good diesel treatment in the tank, and maybe drain the tank before putting in fresh fuel, to get rid of any water and contaminants, Its not a real hard job. and asking here someone will tell you exactly what to do and how to do it. And welcome, we dont bite,,,much,,LOL
 

JerryMT

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With or without load, stall guard on or off, filters are clean - the tractor RPM drops to barely running and then gradually comes back up. I believe it happens more when the fuel tank is less than half full.
Has anyone else had this problem?
Thanks,
:)
Power output in an IC engine is usually restricted by restricting fuel flow or airflow or both. First check the air filter for restriction. That's relatively easy.

If that checks out as OK, then check fuel delivery. There is usually a strainer in the fuel tank at the outlet. Condensation of water in the tank can cause the formation of bacterially produced snotty looking sludge from bacteria living at the fuel/water interface. This can clog the strainer and/or the outlet fuel line. Best practice to minimize water condensation in the tank is to keep the tank as full as possible. You can't eliminate condensation but you can minimize it.
The outlet fuel line can also be pinched or otherwise restricted so check for that. The filter head can get plugged with sludge while the filter maybe OK.

Check for these potential causes.
 
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North Idaho Wolfman

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Treat the fuel tank with Soltron, it will eliminate the sludge, algae, and water. ;)
 

VTRGina

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Wow, thank you everyone!

We don't normally think of stuff 'growing' in our fuel tanks, especially up here where it is cold more than hot, but why not. There are some tough organisms out there...
I will pass on all your comments and suggestions to my brother.
I wonder how often the filter on our main tank is changed? I'll bring that up too.
Soltron eh? I've just learned about SeaFoam and now this. Interesting.

Much appreciation again, enjoy the day. (-: