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Why would you wish to use something different than Kubota S-UDT2? Cost?

3.2 Gallons will cost you about 100 bucks - now you might find something cheaper that SAYS it is Kubota S-UDT2 compatible ......... but just because it say it, does not make it so......

And another product that may meet those specs - will be 20-25 bucks a gallon, thus you might save enough to buy lunch. But is that money really worth it in the long run?
 
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MapleLeafFarmer

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In Canada Kubota and their dealers do not sell UDT nor S-UDT2 at all even though I would bet the tractors they sell in ND are same.

The Dealers sell Kubota branded Premium UDT in Kubota Orange Pails and Barrels (made by Petro Can) and on the pails it reads:
- "....specialized, synthetic-blend hydraulic/transmission fluid formulated for extreme cold weather and high-load performance".
and
- "..... Specially formulated for transmissions with wet brakes as well as power steering."



Petro Can. says its the same as their DuraTran. In the US I have read Valvoline makes a lot of the Orange Pailed hydro fluids.

The Kubota also prints on the back of their Premium Transmission oil pail:

Kubota recommends:
Premium udt
Sudt2
JD JDM J20D
Case MS 1207 / 1209 / 1210
FNHA 2C 200.00
CNH MAT 3505

So our manuals say one thing, what they stamp on their pails/barrels say another but matches what the dealers / corporate supply is another.

edit: I use the Premium UDT I get from my dealer. Price seems competitive.
 
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In Canada Kubota and their dealers do not sell UDT nor S-UDT2 at all even though I would bet the tractors they sell in ND are same.

The Dealers sell Kubota branded Premium UDT in Kubota Orange Pails and Barrels (made by Petro Can) and on the pails it reads:
- "....specialized, synthetic-blend hydraulic/transmission fluid formulated for extreme cold weather and high-load performance".
and
- "..... Specially formulated for transmissions with wet brakes as well as power steering."



Petro Can. says its the same as their DuraTran. In the US I have read Valvoline makes a lot of the Orange Pailed hydro fluids.

The Kubota also prints on the back of their Premium Transmission oil pail:

Kubota recommends:
Premium udt
Sudt2
JD JDM J20D
Case MS 1207 / 1209 / 1210
FNHA 2C 200.00
CNH MAT 3505

So our manuals say one thing, what they stamp on their pails/barrels say another but matches what the dealers / corporate supply is another.

edit: I use the Premium UDT I get from my dealer. Price seems competitive.
The principal difference in UDT and SUDT2 is viscosity

UDT =: John Deere Hygard (J20C) = Duratran
(VI = 140, KV100 = 9.5 cSt)

SUDT2 = John Deere Hygard Low-vis (J20D) = Duratran XL
(VI =200, KV100 = 8.2 cSt)

There are a gadzillion J20C formuIations on the market. J20D products are less common but increasing.

Kubota USA says SUDT2 is "preferred" and UDT is "also acceptable" which should tell you something.

Dan
 
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The principal difference in UDT and SUDT2 is viscosity

UDT =: John Deere Hygard (J20C) = Duratran
(VI = 140, KV100 = 9.5 cSt)

SUDT2 = John Deere Hygard Low-vis (J20D) = Duratran XL
(VI =200, KV100 = 8.2 cSt)

There are a gadzillion J20C formuIations on the market. J20D products are less common but increasing.

Kubota USA says SUDT2 is "preferred" and UDT is "also acceptable" which should tell you something.

Dan
way to complicated and outside my pay grade that for sure. (haha)
I guess probably one of the reasons I see so many orange pails around our place. Our dealer has always been straight and fair with us and we trust them and in return support them.
Personally I learned long ago not to argue with the experts. They treat me well and steer me straight and in return I keep going back year after year. A win / win for both of us I guess.

Cheers!

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way to complicated and outside my pay grade that for sure. (haha)
I guess probably one of the reasons I see so many orange pails around our place. Our dealer has always been straight and fair with us and we trust them and in return support them.
Personally I learned long ago not to argue with the experts. They treat me well and steer me straight and in return I keep going back year after year. A win / win for both of us I guess.

Cheers!

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Not complicated at all. SUDT2 is a slightly lower viscosity and better cold weather oil than UDT. Just that simple.

Dan
 
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In Canada Kubota and their dealers do not sell UDT nor S-UDT2 at all even though I would bet the tractors they sell in ND are same.

The Dealers sell Kubota branded Premium UDT in Kubota Orange Pails and Barrels (made by Petro Can)
The MSDS for Canadian "Premium UDT" shows it is made by Shell Canada Products in Alberta. The material description indicates it is made of "highly refined mineral oils".

Duratran is good stuff, probably at least as good or better. But it's not the same.
 

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Not complicated at all. SUDT2 is a slightly lower viscosity and better cold weather oil than UDT. Just that simple.

Dan
And one is synthetic and the other is not !